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  • NA9D
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    Re: Possible to permanently turn off purchase only movies?

    Originally posted by Broman View Post
    Maybe my perception is off, but It feels as though ATV is getting some films before Vudu. Haven't had the Vudu long enough to test that out. Either way I don't feel short changed by apples content, which I think your driving at.
    Actually, I doubt that. All new movies are released on Tuesdays for DVDs and digital purchases. With the exception of Warner Brothers, digital rentals are available 30 days after DVD/digital purchase release. AppleTV is bound by those same restrictions. So Vudu will actually have the purchase movies available earlier than ATV will have them for rental.

    The other huge thing is that there are ZERO, count them ZERO, DolbyDigital 5.1 SD movies on iTunes/ATV. There are quite a few DD5.1 SD movies on Vudu.

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  • NA9D
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    Re: Possible to permanently turn off purchase only movies?

    Originally posted by Broman View Post
    I think Vudu probably has the leverage now that they've proven it's a viable movie revenue option for the studios. Apple isn't being forced to include both... I would imagine the possibility is there for Vudu to negotiate for the sake of the end users who want to rent only.
    Yes, but you never know - there may be some rental titles that Apple will never be able to carry since they don't give the ability to purchase from AppleTV.

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  • redwein
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    Re: Possible to permanently turn off purchase only movies?

    Originally posted by Broman View Post
    I think having the box hit the end user with all filters off and giving the user the option to go in to the system and turn off purchase movies is quite reasonable.
    That sounds reasonable to me as well. It's just a separation of the concepts of filters which should persist and always be applied, and searches which are what you are looking for at a specific time but should be limited by the global filters.

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  • Broman
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    Re: Possible to permanently turn off purchase only movies?

    Originally posted by aaronwt View Post
    And the only way to get around that would be a filter you can implement to only filter rental titles, which the VUDU has.
    It would be great if this filter was global and permanent. That's my beef with the system. For me, it's all about the letdown of selecting a purchase only movie.

    I think Vudu probably has the leverage now that they've proven it's a viable movie revenue option for the studios. Apple isn't being forced to include both... I would imagine the possibility is there for Vudu to negotiate for the sake of the end users who want to rent only.

    I think having the box hit the end user with all filters off and giving the user the option to go in to the system and turn off purchase movies is quite reasonable.

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  • aaronwt
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    Re: Possible to permanently turn off purchase only movies?

    And the only way to get around that would be a filter you can implement to only filter rental titles, which the VUDU has.

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  • NA9D
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    Re: Possible to permanently turn off purchase only movies?

    Originally posted by orccro1 View Post
    Why not just add a "rental only" option on the home screen?
    Well, we've asked for the ability to have a user preferences setting where you go in and set what genres, studios, star ratings, rental or purchase status, etc. that you want to see by default. You could always manually go in and change it for the short term but your default prefs would be across the board until changed.

    We'll ask for it again.

    I think this would be something that would suit everyone.

    My biggest question is there are contractual obligations with the studios on showing certain films (ie: if we put this movie up for rental, then you must show users this other film that is purchase only).

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  • orccro1
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    Re: Possible to permanently turn off purchase only movies?

    Why not just add a "rental only" option on the home screen?

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  • orccro1
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    Re: Possible to permanently turn off purchase only movies?

    Originally posted by NA9D View Post
    It's your choice, but given how simple it is to set the filters to "Available to Rent", I'm surprised. There's even some titles that you see in there that are purchase only that you might want to buy.
    It would be nice if the "Available to Rent" filter were even simpler; that is, make so that it stays on permanently. I am a "rental only" person, but will buy occasionally. But if I buy, I want to own the actual DVD. Another option with Apple TV is you can use a program like Handbrake (on my Mac), borrow or rent a DVD (say from Netflix), and rip and transfer the movie to Apple TV and play it later at your leisure (and return the DVD to Netflix and get the next DVD in your cue!).

    Nonetheless, I really enjoy Vudu and hope it succeeds--but it would be great to be able to turn on a permanent "rental only" filter.

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  • Broman
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    Re: Possible to permanently turn off purchase only movies?

    For newer movies I'm not having an issue finding stuff to watch. I suppose for older films it would be more comprehensive with Vudu. I've actually found things on the ATV that Vudu doesn't have and vice versa. Maybe my perception is off, but It feels as though ATV is getting some films before Vudu. Haven't had the Vudu long enough to test that out. Either way I don't feel short changed by apples content, which I think your driving at.

    Like I mentioned earlier, I have picked some older films to watch only to have bad luck in selection and have it be a purchase only. This is very frustrating. While it can be solved by checking off the rent only button I don't like having to use the genre search feature every time I want to find a movie. The main screen for example, it's a mix of both.

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  • redwein
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    Re: Possible to permanently turn off purchase only movies?

    Originally posted by Broman View Post
    Between having to check that off each time for a search, as well as some general interface aesthetics compared to the ATV2, I don't think the value is there at this price point for me.
    And you don't consider the lack of content on ATV as reducing its value more than "having to check off each time"? I am having a hard time understanding that. This really sounds like throwing out the baby with the bath water.

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  • Broman
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    Re: Possible to permanently turn off purchase only movies?

    Yes it is a big factor. On the ATV2 if you see a movie anywhere on the screen you can rent it, otherwise it doesn't show up. On the Vudu I keep feeling let down or frustrated because movies I'd like to rent are purchase only. Out of sight out of mind IMHO is better if your purely a movie renter

    Between having to check that off each time for a search, as well as some general interface aesthetics compared to the ATV2, I don't think the value is there at this price point for me.

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  • HeadHodge
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    Re: Possible to permanently turn off purchase only movies?

    Originally posted by Broman View Post
    wow... I get told to stay on topic from one Mod and then another comes in and corrects my personal opinions. Interesting.

    Either way, I'm not putting out $300 in the hopes that the company does something I'm looking for down the road. ATV2 does what I want now in the interface. ATV2 isn't flawless or a complete package either. My major gripes are the crappy Apple remote (can use a universal remote which makes up for a lot), as well as the heat and esthetics of the unit itself. Beyond that I was just trying to buy a different interface for a second TV and was lead to believe that my experience could be better with the Vudu. For me, I think ATV2 is a better interface and choice. The 30 day guarantee is a nice offer from Vudu. I do appreciate that.

    but to get back on topic...
    Well my 2 cents.

    I have both ATV and VUDU and am just getting into the actually using them mode instead of evaluation mode.

    And so far just from personal experience I'm watching more VUDU than ATV.

    Not because I'm biased one way or the other, but because VUDU has a better selection of movies I want to watch that also contain my minimum quality requirements of DVD quality or better AND DD5.1 audio.

    I'm a rental only person and agree it's a pain to waid thru VUDU to find what I want. But I find it a bigger pain to find what I want with ATV.

    We just finished watching Trade and In my Backdoor, on VUDU. Both of them pretty much sucked but the picture and sound quality definitely met or exceeded our expectations.

    So go with ATV, but in my opinion you might think twice about keeping them both as a way to increase your options for obtaining and viewing content.

    Regards

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  • Rusdude
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    I think, the OP should be concerned with how much content is available on AppleTV (movies; iTunes still rules TV). Macworld came out with a story yesterday that says that there are only about 400 movies for rent on ATV. Compare this with 4,000-odd rentals on Vudu.

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  • redwein
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    Re: Possible to permanently turn off purchase only movies?

    Originally posted by Broman View Post
    BTW you are correct it is simple. However I dislike having to do it every time I go to find a movie. Permanent selection or the ability to turn off purchase only was the topic of the thread.
    OK. I have to ask. Given that you acknowledge it is simple, is that really the only reason you are returning the box? It really doesn't sound like a big deal in the grand scheme of things. I'm curious if maybe there is more behind your decision to return it.

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  • NA9D
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    Re: Possible to permanently turn off purchase only movies?

    Originally posted by Broman View Post
    wow... I get told to stay on topic from one Mod and then another comes in and corrects my personal opinions. Interesting.
    Yeah, well I'm a rebel. And I made a feeble attempt to bring it back to the topic at the end.

    And I apologize if you feel I was trying to correct your personal opinion. I can't do that no matter how hard I try. I was simply attempting to engage in discussion on the topic and give you my opinions. I agree with most of what you say.

    And given what you want, perhaps Vudu isn't the right thing for you right now and that's fine. Maybe some day it will evolve into what you want and then you can always buy one down the road a bit.

    At the least, I am glad you came in here asking the questions. I'm sorry we weren't able to give you the answer or answers you wanted to hear.

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