Re: We Don't REALLY "Own" What We Buy.
Legally speaking, you NEVER own the content you buy, regardless of the distribution mechanism (dvd/blu-ray/est). All you ever purchase is a license to watch/listen to it.
For storage purposes, I personally like that someone else stores my media, with redundancy. If my hard drive goes down, my movie collection is not affected.
As others have mentioned, the release of the CFF should alleviate most of the grievances of those that wish to store/stream locally.
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Re: We Don't REALLY "Own" What We Buy.
Originally posted by canadien37 View PostFrom my experience, the downloaded files do play from the Hub's internal HDD, so a fast connection is not needed, just a connection for authentication purposes.....
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Re: We Don't REALLY "Own" What We Buy.
Originally posted by tsken02 View PostThe WD Live Hub needs a fast broadband connection to watch downloads. Someone at VUDU seems to miss the point of downloading your movies. I agree with you, I can't wait for CFF!
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Originally posted by canadien37 View PostIn all fairness I can download the films onto my WD Live Hub, but I still have to be connected to the 'Net and go into the VUDU app on the Hub to view the films....That said, again, CFF can't arrive fast enough......
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Re: We Don't REALLY "Own" What We Buy.
Originally posted by tbone View PostWhere is this Vudu2Go App? Vudu Player seems to be the only legitimate app I can find in Googles Playstore or in Apples App store and both have very low ratings. Is Vudu Player the app I would use to watch purchased content while offline? My wife refuses to purchase anymore digital media unless we can watch it offline; she prefers a physical library & rips everything. I prefer a digital library but I admit its useless when you don't have access to internet.
In all fairness I can download the films onto my WD Live Hub, but I still have to be connected to the 'Net and go into the VUDU app on the Hub to view the films....That said, again, CFF can't arrive fast enough......
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Where is this Vudu2Go App? Vudu Player seems to be the only legitimate app I can find in Googles Playstore or in Apples App store and both have very low ratings. Is Vudu Player the app I would use to watch purchased content while offline? My wife refuses to purchase anymore digital media unless we can watch it offline; she prefers a physical library & rips everything. I prefer a digital library but I admit its useless when you don't have access to internet.
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Re: We Don't REALLY "Own" What We Buy.
Originally posted by Walter-S_North_Carolina View PostJaymieX,
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However, I have found simply streaming to my TVs negates the need for physical copies.
And you can't use a DVD on a tablet or a smartphone.
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Originally posted by JaymieX View PostI have just downloaded several television episodes that I purchased. Upon attempting to burn them to a DVD, I learned that they are nowhere to be found on my Mac. I contacted support, asking for assistance, and received a very short one-sentence response that they are stored in an "undisclosed file", and could not access them without the VUDU2GO App.
I purchased these television episodes, and should be able to burn them to a disc, since I own them.
How is this even remotely justifiable? We need to be able to do what we wish with the movies/titles we own, short of anything illegal. Since I own the shows I bought, I should be able to burn them to a DVD. I find this to be an unacceptable restriction; I simply wanted to make a DVD of the things I own so I could watch them at my grandparents' - downloading the app isn't possible, since they do not have internet.
Again, I own the titles; I should be able to burn them to a DVD if I so choose.
This issue needs to be resolved. As customers, we should be allowed to do what we wish with our movies.
If you're concerned about theft, set a limit for number of downloads. But this is not acceptable. by any means.
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Re: We Don't REALLY "Own" What We Buy.
This issuie will be addressed when the Common File Format for UltraViolet is deployed. You will be able to download a standalone file of the movie and play it on a variety of players on a hard drive, network drive, USB drive, or DVD. Then you won't have to have access to the internet to play your movies. This is supposed to be launched later this year, but it has already been delayed from last year.
http://www.uvdemystified.com/uvfaq.html#toc3.2
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JaymieX,
I understand your frustration. However, all UV vendors have this requirement (playback via their app alone). Amazon Instant Video does too.
iTunes stores the files in your iTunes library media folder, but the file is not portable by any means.
All EST (electronic sell through) vendors have the model of which you have run into with Vudu.
If you are looking for portability via a compact disc, the only way I know of is to rip a packaged media, convert via Handbreak into which ever final format you wish, and then copy it onto your portable media.
However, I have found simply streaming to my TVs negates the need for physical copies. You may feel differently and wish to preserve a copy of your purchased EST titles in physical form. To me, that would be wasted effort, but I do appreciate that you may feel differently.
As far as ownership, the digital locker method is a pretty well established model due to the trail blazed from MP3 purchases. EST of movie industry content is simply an extension of the digital rights locker model already in place for other forms of electronic content.
If this model is not to your liking, you may wish to instead elect the purchase of packaged media from now on. Vudu only sells digital rights.
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I am fine with it. We do own it, we just can't copy or burn it.
This is the way it is supposed to be, and the way studios will support UV and digital purchases.
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We Don't REALLY "Own" What We Buy.
I have just downloaded several television episodes that I purchased. Upon attempting to burn them to a DVD, I learned that they are nowhere to be found on my Mac. I contacted support, asking for assistance, and received a very short one-sentence response that they are stored in an "undisclosed file", and could not access them without the VUDU2GO App.
I purchased these television episodes, and should be able to burn them to a disc, since I own them.
How is this even remotely justifiable? We need to be able to do what we wish with the movies/titles we own, short of anything illegal. Since I own the shows I bought, I should be able to burn them to a DVD. I find this to be an unacceptable restriction; I simply wanted to make a DVD of the things I own so I could watch them at my grandparents' - downloading the app isn't possible, since they do not have internet.
Again, I own the titles; I should be able to burn them to a DVD if I so choose.
This issue needs to be resolved. As customers, we should be allowed to do what we wish with our movies.
If you're concerned about theft, set a limit for number of downloads. But this is not acceptable. by any means.Tags: None
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