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    HD Fury - HD solution for Component/VGA Monitors

    NEWS FROM THE BRAIN LABORATORY - I've come across and purchased a neat little device - the HD Fury - that is designed to allow you to connect an HDMI video source (like the Vudu) to HD monitors and projectors that do not natively support HDMI/DVI. The HD Fury could be a "fix" for those folks who are griping about having to live with the 480P component output on their older projectors and HDTV monitors due to the HDCP/DRM restrictions put on the newer HD sources.

    You can learn more about this device at www.hdfury.com.

    The best price I've found for the HD Fury is at http://www.monoprice.com/products/se...keyword=hdfury - the version with an RGBHV cable is $115.50 plus shipping.

    There is a fairly extensive forum about the HD Fury at http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=32.

    Caveats:

    1) Just because you read about it here, be aware that the HD Fury is not officially supported by the Vudu company - I'm just letting you all know about something I found to be very interesting and useful. Please don't take this as a Vudu endorsement.

    2) Your monitor must natively support the 720p/1080i/1080p resolution you select for this to work (i.e. 1280x720 or 1920x1080). You can read about compatibility issues on the forum referenced above.

    3) There is also talk of a lower priced "Fire Fury" clone of the HD Fury on eBay that has been reported to fry some monitors. If you use any of these devices, (HD Fury or Fire Fury) do so at your own risk - knowledge is power. If you make a mistake and blow up your monitor/projector with either device, don't come back here crying for relief.

    4) I understand that they are about to come out with an HD Fury V2 device that has support for HDMI > Y/PR/BR in addition to the current VGA and Component (RGBHV) modes. It also sounds like the V2 device will also have audio connections, the V1 only has Video outputs.

    My experience with HD Fury:

    Experiment 1 - I used an HDMI>DVI cable to connect the Vudu to my HD Fury. I then connected the HD Fury directly to one of my LCD monitors with a VGA Cable (HDD15 connector). I was then able to watch an HD movie (one of the Bourne titles) at 720p resolution on the LCD monitor. The LCD monitors used in these experiments do not support HDCP. The monitor does natively support 1280x720 resolution. I couldn't test the 1080 modes, as none of my VGA LCD monitors natively support that high of video resolution, but I do think it should work fine if you have a higher resolution monitor/projector.

    Experiment 2 - I used one of my Projector Connector CAT5 video extender devices (http://www.justaddpower.com/products...ConnectorB.htm ) to connect my Vudu to 2 VGA LCD monitors at the same time. I was able to watch the Vudu HD Movie at 720p mode on both monitors at the same time.

    Experiment 3 - I used one of my Video Genie DS devices (http://www.justaddpower.com/products...h2Overview.htm ) to connect the Vudu to multiple monitors simultaneously. The Video Genie would allow me to connect to practically any number of monitors via CAT5 cable. It worked great.

    Disclaimers:

    1) I am not a Vudu employee, so don't' take this to be official Vudu advise.

    2) I am in no way associated with the HD Fury company, just a satisfied user.

    3) I am heavily invested in the Just Add Power company which makes the CAT5 extender devices I referenced in experiments 2 & 3.
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    Re: HD Fury - HD solution for Component/VGA Monitors

    Would it even work at 1080P24? Isn't VGA designed to work with 1080P60, not 1080P24?

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      Re: HD Fury - HD solution for Component/VGA Monitors

      Originally posted by aaronwt View Post
      Would it even work at 1080P24? Isn't VGA designed to work with 1080P60, not 1080P24?
      Since you can set the VUDU box to 1080i, does it matter?

      It's still an improvement over the 480p coming out the component port.

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        Re: HD Fury - HD solution for Component/VGA Monitors

        Originally posted by aaronwt View Post
        Would it even work at 1080P24? Isn't VGA designed to work with 1080P60, not 1080P24?
        If the target monitor can handle 24fps, I think it should work. This device just passes through the image and solves the HDCP handshake requirement. Some monitors/projectors won't support 24fps, so they will have to settle for 1080i (which blows 480p out of the water).

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          Re: HD Fury - HD solution for Component/VGA Monitors

          Nded,

          Thanks for the great info. So, it looks like if I have an HD set with component connections, I will have to wait for HD Fury V2 correct?

          I have a 57" Sony with only component connections at 1080i native.

          I hope the V2 comes out soon if it is true that it will support HDMI > Component.

          Great stuff!

          Thanks again,

          Tony

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            Re: HD Fury - HD solution for Component/VGA Monitors

            Originally posted by NeedVOD View Post
            Nded,

            Thanks for the great info. So, it looks like if I have an HD set with component connections, I will have to wait for HD Fury V2 correct?

            I have a 57" Sony with only component connections at 1080i native.

            I hope the V2 comes out soon if it is true that it will support HDMI > Component.

            Great stuff!

            Thanks again,

            Tony
            Component has become a vague term - if your component connection is RGBHV (5 cables), the V1 should work, if your component is Y/PR/BR, you need to wait for V2.

            Hope it works for you.

            Ed

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              Re: HD Fury - HD solution for Component/VGA Monitors

              Yes,

              Component to me is Y/PR/BR.

              I am eagerly waiting.

              Thanks,

              Tony

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                Re: HD Fury - HD solution for Component/VGA Monitors

                Originally posted by NeedVOD View Post
                Yes,

                Component to me is Y/PR/BR.

                I am eagerly waiting.

                Thanks,

                Tony
                Although I can't recommend one, there are boxes out there that can convert VGA to Component and HDMI.

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                  Re: HD Fury - HD solution for Component/VGA Monitors

                  Originally posted by Nded View Post
                  If the target monitor can handle 24fps, I think it should work. This device just passes through the image and solves the HDCP handshake requirement. Some monitors/projectors won't support 24fps, so they will have to settle for 1080i (which blows 480p out of the water).
                  Doesn't VGA only handle progressive resolutions, not interlaced?

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                    Re: HD Fury - HD solution for Component/VGA Monitors

                    Originally posted by aaronwt View Post
                    Doesn't VGA only handle progressive resolutions, not interlaced?
                    Err, umm, no.

                    Remember that VGA came out back in the mid 80's. One VGA card/monitor I recall that handled both interlaced and non-interlaced modes was the 8514/A specification - http://www.tavi.co.uk/ps2pages/ohland/8514A.html. FYI - back in the good old days we called it non-interlaced, not progressive mode!

                    If you need some more distractions dig into the details at http://www.monitorworld.com/faq_pages/q10_page.html , about halfway through the paragraph on "interlacing" you will find that "Many non-interlaced monitors can only work in non-interlaced mode up to a maximum pixel addressability, above which they revert to interlaced mode".

                    Keep in mind that this HDFury device is targeted at monitors/projectors capable of higher resolutions that were built before DRM and HDCP were established and accepted standards. Most likely you will not find very many older monitors that were built for 1080p24fps, however they may support 1080p/i at 60fps. It all depends on which specific display device you are trying to use.

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                      Re: HD Fury - HD solution for Component/VGA Monitors

                      Originally posted by HeadHodge View Post
                      Although I can't recommend one, there are boxes out there that can convert VGA to Component and HDMI.
                      RE: Converting HDMI to HDMI

                      Anybody that reports using such a device in combination with an HDFury (i.e. convert HDMI to VGA and then VGA back to HDMI) will be subject to ridicule and possibly be banned.

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                        Re: HD Fury - HD solution for Component/VGA Monitors

                        Originally posted by Nded View Post
                        RE: Converting HDMI to HDMI

                        Anybody that reports using such a device in combination with an HDFury (i.e. convert HDMI to VGA and then VGA back to HDMI) will be subject to ridicule and possibly be banned.
                        You might be able to make me cry. But you will only force me to play the non-HDCP HDMI card.

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