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  • NA9D
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by bspooky View Post
    It sure seems to me that new DVDs are release, yet no Vudu rental even within 30 days. Even movies on Vudu that I add to my wishlist that are for purchase only don't all seem to have gone rental. Yeah, sure, some say "rent on xyz date in the future" but not all of them are like that. Some sure seem to have been in my wishlist for longer than 30 days, still no rental option.

    Are you saying all the new DVDs that come out for the Studios Vudu partners with have shown up on Vudu to rent 30 days later?????

    Jobs didn't promise that specifically, but he led you to believe it. And given Apple's clout and experience getting studios, I can't imagine they wouldn't be meeting closer to 100% available to rent than Vudu.

    I hope I am wrong, and in a couple months we will know.
    Videos for which Vudu gets rental licenses show up somewhere around 30 days later for rental. Not all movies get rental licenses (particularly from companies like Sony). I anticipate the same thing will happen with AppleTV. Nothing was said that EVERY DVD that comes out will be on AppleTV. Yet this is what everyone is jumping to conclusions on. Some movies on Vudu are rentable the day they are released. Some are both rentable and purchasable on the day of release. We know that with Apple they won't be rentable until 30 days later...

    The studios would have no reason to have different licensing contracts with different providers. It would make a complicated business model even more complicated.

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  • bspooky
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by NA9D View Post
    What new content is Vudu not getting? Jobs didn't specify ALL new content either. He said new content....
    It sure seems to me that new DVDs are release, yet no Vudu rental even within 30 days. Even movies on Vudu that I add to my wishlist that are for purchase only don't all seem to have gone rental. Yeah, sure, some say "rent on xyz date in the future" but not all of them are like that. Some sure seem to have been in my wishlist for longer than 30 days, still no rental option.

    Are you saying all the new DVDs that come out for the Studios Vudu partners with have shown up on Vudu to rent 30 days later?????

    Jobs didn't promise that specifically, but he led you to believe it. And given Apple's clout and experience getting studios, I can't imagine they wouldn't be meeting closer to 100% available to rent than Vudu.

    I hope I am wrong, and in a couple months we will know.

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  • NA9D
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by redwein View Post
    Does Apple TV support purchasing of movies at all? It isn't important to me but I'm curious on whether they are taking a rental only approach and avoiding the whole question of expanded storage, etc.
    It does right now. But with 40 Gigs of storage, you have to store it on your computer. Then you have to sync the computer with the AppleTV to get the movies, or you have to go and choose to stream from your iTunes Library. Changing to streaming from iTunes takes a while with a large library of songs and all because the AppleTV has to load and process all the XML data in order to get the menus set up. Seriously, it takes about 1 to 2 minutes sometimes to do this. And iTunes has to be running on the serving machine.

    Being limited to storing content on the $229 AppleTV is a major headache. Trust me...Yes, the drive can be upgraded pretty easily, but then you are looking at a price not much different than Vudu.

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  • bqmeister
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by StevenRushing View Post
    Sorry man, but this is a silly argument. The real comparison is the $229 UNLIMITED Apple TV compared to the $399 unlimited Vudu. The real difference is that you have ample control over the content of the Apple TV where as you have to call Vudu to have them manually delete their box so you can load more content. That is a major difference in convenience, considering convenience is what Vudu is supposed to get right.
    I'd be happy if vudu would've offered a $229 model with an 80 gig drive (and everything else you listed above).

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  • NA9D
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by StevenRushing View Post
    Sorry man, but this is a silly argument. The real comparison is the $229 UNLIMITED Apple TV compared to the $399 unlimited Vudu. The real difference is that you have ample control over the content of the Apple TV where as you have to call Vudu to have them manually delete their box so you can load more content. That is a major difference in convenience, considering convenience is what Vudu is supposed to get right.
    Do you have a 40 Gig AppleTV? I do. And it's a headache to have to move content around. You can't store a whole library of movies on it like you can the Vudu. Storage space is absolutely a critical item here.

    Also, nothing has been said about how quickly the movie will be available on AppleTV. Right now on iTunes, you have to download the whole movie first. Will AppleTV be truly on demand? Correction - I just went back to look at it again - 30 seconds before you can watch.

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  • bqmeister
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by redwein View Post
    Does Apple TV support purchasing of movies at all? It isn't important to me but I'm curious on whether they are taking a rental only approach and avoiding the whole question of expanded storage, etc.

    Also, will Apple TV work as well not using P2P technology as far as instant play is concerned? If it will, then that would seem to say that P2P is more of a benefit for Vudu not having to have massive servers, etc., than it is for the Vudu user. Personally, I don't care how the movie gets there, as long as it's "instantly".

    I'm still rooting for Vudu and I agree with NA9D that this competition excites me. It makes it seem more inevitable that VOD as a mainstream service is on the way. Whoever does it best will get my business.
    I really agree - VOD is the future.

    I do care about the P2P technology though. I probably shouldn't, but I'd still rather not have 200-300K of my upload speed used by vudu to share movies with others. The usage probably doesn't affect me at all, but if given the option to allow vudu to use my bandwidth or not, everything else being equal, I'd choose not. It's a very very minor issue and one I won't lose sleep over, but still.

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  • NA9D
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by bspooky View Post
    And lests not forget Jobs seem to say new releases from their studios 30 days later, not just SOME new releases. If that holds to be true that is a serious advantage.

    Content, specifcially newer content, is king for the masses of consumers.
    What new content is Vudu not getting? Jobs didn't specify ALL new content either. He said new content....

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  • StevenRushing
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    The big thing Apple has going for it is name and price. But the 160 GB version is $329. Vudu gives you a 250 GB hard drive for $399. So the pricing isn't that much different. The $229 is just for 40 Gigs...
    Sorry man, but this is a silly argument. The real comparison is the $229 UNLIMITED Apple TV compared to the $399 unlimited Vudu. The real difference is that you have ample control over the content of the Apple TV where as you have to call Vudu to have them manually delete their box so you can load more content. That is a major difference in convenience, considering convenience is what Vudu is supposed to get right.

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  • bspooky
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by bqmeister View Post
    Same limitations as vudu.

    So lets compare.

    Apple vs Vudu

    30 days for new releases for both.
    Tie!

    Price of HD new releases.
    Apple -$4.99. Vudu $5.99
    Winner - Apple

    Price of hardware.
    Apple $229. Vudu $399
    Winner - Apple

    Vudu is in need of some serious catch-up.
    And lests not forget Jobs seem to say new releases from their studios 30 days later, not just SOME new releases. If that holds to be true that is a serious advantage.

    Content, specifcially newer content, is king for the masses of consumers.

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  • bqmeister
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    FWIW, I want Vudu to win. I have a vudu and don't have an appletv. I don't want to buy another hardware device, but it could be tempting.

    Apple will allow you to play youtube videos. I already have that functionality with my DVR (youtube and google videos actually).
    Apple also allows you to access content on your network. I already have that functionality as well, but still.


    Today we find out apple will get new releases 30 days after DVD is released. At least we KNOW. Why couldn't vudu make that info public? Or does vudu not have that same agreement?

    If vudu is going to win, they need to convince people to choose vudu over appletv. If I was in the market for a streaming device like this, I'd do one of two things: I'd either buy an appletv today or consider waiting to see what the Netflix/LG box looks like. Today, I wouldn't consider a vudu.

    Hopefully vudu has some price cut announcements in the works that'll help to change my (and future customer's as well) mind.

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  • redwein
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Does Apple TV support purchasing of movies at all? It isn't important to me but I'm curious on whether they are taking a rental only approach and avoiding the whole question of expanded storage, etc.

    Also, will Apple TV work as well not using P2P technology as far as instant play is concerned? If it will, then that would seem to say that P2P is more of a benefit for Vudu not having to have massive servers, etc., than it is for the Vudu user. Personally, I don't care how the movie gets there, as long as it's "instantly".

    I'm still rooting for Vudu and I agree with NA9D that this competition excites me. It makes it seem more inevitable that VOD as a mainstream service is on the way. Whoever does it best will get my business.

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  • NA9D
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by bqmeister View Post
    Same limitations as vudu.

    So lets compare.

    Apple vs Vudu

    30 days for new releases for both.
    Tie!

    Price of HD new releases.
    Apple -$4.99. Vudu $5.99
    Winner - Apple

    Price of hardware.
    Apple $229. Vudu $399
    Winner - Apple

    Vudu is in need of some serious catch-up.
    OK let's really compare numbers here bqmeister:

    Number of movies on iTunes: 1000
    Number of movies on Vudu: 5000 (or thereabout)

    Size of $229 AppleTV hard drive: 40 Gigabytes
    Price of AppleTV with 160 Gigabyte hard drive: $329

    Size of Vudu at $399: 250 Gigabytes

    You still need a computer to effectively store any purchased content with the AppleTV. You don't with Vudu.

    Vudu doesn't have as much catching up as you say they do. Don't just spout numbers when the devil is in the details.

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  • bqmeister
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Same limitations as vudu.

    So lets compare.

    Apple vs Vudu

    30 days for new releases for both.
    Tie!

    Price of HD new releases.
    Apple -$4.99. Vudu $5.99
    Winner - Apple

    Price of hardware.
    Apple $229. Vudu $399
    Winner - Apple

    Vudu is in need of some serious catch-up.

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  • NA9D
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Hey all you freaking nay sayers.

    Get this. APPLE IS NOT GOING TO GET SAME DAY RENTALS:

    iTunes rentals gets the titles 30 days after the DVD is released. 30 days to start watching them, and 24 hours to watch the movie. Once you click rental, it will download within 30 seconds with standard broadband. Library films: $2.99. New release: $3.99.
    source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/22649169/site...t%7C&par=yahoo
    9:41 AM entry

    HAH! HAH! HAH! Same limitations as Vudu!

    HAH! HAH! HAH!

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  • bqmeister
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by NA9D View Post
    Oh gimme a break. Buy one less coffee at Starbuck's for Pete's sake!

    Movies are 20% more expensive on vudu.
    Vudu also costs 70% more than appleTV.

    And I bet appleTV has an IR remote.

    And I don't go to starbucks.

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