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    High Definition HD Content - or lack there of?

    Every critic I try and boast VUDU to, or speak with, or who have read the reviews and news releases on websites/blogsites about your service, post their negativity and are saying one thing and one thing only... and that is VUDU will be obsolete, dead, out of business in 1 years time, unless they can deliver on the ONLY thing todays millions of HDTV owners want, and that's HD Movies!

    So please, if nothing else, prove them wrong, and prove me right, as I was sold on your service when I read that you have signed every movie studio, and you "WILL" offer High Definition New Releases to the public.

    So the million dollar subscribers question to you is this then... WHEN?

    Cause if not in the next couple of months, I'd have to bite my tongue, bite the bullet, and bow down to the critics once again for a failed attempt at the once thought potentially huge new HD service.

    Best,
    Paul in Atlanta
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    I know for a fact that the Vudu box can download and play HD movies.

    I am confident that the critics will be eating their words before too long.

    You will be proven correct.

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      #3
      Re: High Definition HD Content - or lack there of?

      I really do think the key here was to offer the "NEW RELEASES" in High Definition HD?

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        I think the bigger challenge is getting the studios to deliver true HD content. It's too late to go back and make the "old" movies HD, as they weren't recorded in HD resolutions. In a similar vein, just because a movie is a new release, it doesn't mean they recorded it with HD quality equipment. The production team has to decide to make that investment up front, not after the fact.

        When the studios produce/release HD content to Vudu, they are ready to deliver it to the Vudu network players.

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          Re: High Definition HD Content - or lack there of?

          Yes, because look how quickly Blu-Ray/HD-DVD has killed the standard DVD! Really, I think what will most influence VUDU's eventual domination or collapse is the ease of adoption, which I think is one of their biggest strengths. It's actually easier than Netflix, because there's no waiting or queueing, just click and watch. You only need to be able to hook up the equivalent of a DVD player and plug in an ethernet cable.

          Of course, I think they should offer HD content, and as was mentioned before, they certainly can, as long as it's available from the studios. But I think in this the critics are thinking too much like us geeks, and not enough like the average consumer.

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            Re: High Definition HD Content - or lack there of?

            I can also pretty much guarantee you that there will be current if not new releases in HD. The box is very capable of it but HD is much more bandwidth intensive and space intensive as well. Because of this, many people may opt for the SD content upconverted by the box which looks pretty darn good anyhow. I agree with Max, that Blue-Ray and HD-DVD have certainly done a remarkable job at destroying the SD DVD and SD DVD player market. Last time I was in best buy I think I saw about 30 different models of SD DVD players and not all of them upconverted either.

            And the point about the content being HD is also a big one. Just because the studio releases something in 720p or higher resolution doesn't really make it HD. If the content was record with SD equipment, HD doesn't matter. I think most movies out there right now that you see on HD VOD on cable or on HD cable channels aren't really HD movies recorded in HD during the actual shoot. Rather they have been converted. So the quality is likely no better than letting the box upconvert the HD. The disadvantage is the demand on the bandwidth.

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              Actually I don't think the lack of HD content will kill the VUDU. Most folks we speak with that have up converting DVD players love the image quality. And if the DVD was a direct digital transfer its almost as good as HD. When I watch Finding Nemo on a up-converting DVD player the picture is just awesome.

              If you look at the specks for the VUDU it does up-convert to HD and I can speak from experience that the better the source material the better the viewing. I expect that most folks will go for the instant gratification of viewing movies on demand in the up-converted form vs waiting a bit longer for HD streaming to happen.

              I have just purchased a Toshiba HD DVD player a month ago and purchased the HD DVD of the 300. The quality was great. I then watched the 300 regular DVD in up-convert and I could barely see the difference on my big screen TV.

              This goes back to the old VHS to DVD mass migration. There was just a amazing difference between tape and DVD. With up-conversion and high quality content on the standard DVD releases the average person doesn't see the need to make the HD DVD leap.

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                Re: High Definition HD Content - or lack there of?

                The key here is "THE AVERAGE PERSON" will not be buyers of the VUDU box, they are average and think cable is just fine!

                The seeker for more HD content and the HIGHER QUALITY content than we can find anywhere else, seek out new technology like VUDU, so you guys are definitely missing the point, and I hope the higher-ups are reading and realizing this!

                So simple - if it's offered by the studio - then try your best to get it on VUDU, cause the more you do, the more you will grow in leaps and bounds! The less you do, the faster users will drop off like flies, and scurry to the next new service which promises more NEW/TRUE HD content.

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                  Re: High Definition HD Content - or lack there of?

                  Why do you assume Vudu is missing the point just because some reviewers don't think that there is HD content.

                  There absolutely will be. I've seen HD content on the box myself and it wasn't a demo set up for that as it was on my box in my living room. It's awesome.

                  The problem with HD over the internet is that the bandwidth requirements are tremendous. The Vudu needs about a minimum of 2 Mbps for streaming SD content in real time. HD content will need AT LEAST 4 to 5 Mbps. Many people do not have that and so will have to wait for part of the movie to download.

                  So please, just cause some blogger somewhere gets his facts wrong doesn't mean his view is reality...

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                    Re: High Definition HD Content - or lack there of?

                    If you read back my posts, I never assume, I only try to help a new service with reality, and that reality is there are over 43,000,000 people in the U.S. with high-speed connections over 4Mbps (I'm in the broadband industry, I know) and the # of 1080P HDTV sets are growing in leaps and bounds.

                    These people want the best of the best, to show off what they invested in all this technology for, so if someone can bring it, then they will flock to it, but if they think "this should be good enough for now", then there will be a lot of wasted advertising dollars spent to "try" and bring them!

                    Believe us, the HD community will spread your service like wildfire if GREAT HD content is offered, VOOM was a little too early, and if Dolan got Murdoch, we estimated that VOOM would now be at 4,000,000 strong if they kept expanding their HD content like they were!

                    That's all from me, I want it to work out, and I want to tell others there IS a high quality HD service out there to use and love to show off/push to the limit/enjoy your high spec equipment!

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                      Re: High Definition HD Content - or lack there of?

                      Again, trust us. HD Content is coming to the box and there will probably be a handful of titles by the time the boxes ship with more coming in the future. I can't speak for Vudu on this with certainty so this is not a commitment or promise, but as a user, I find this likely. I've seen HD content via the box. It's beautiful. I am confident that providing HD movies on demand was one of the main reasons for this product.

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                        Re: High Definition HD Content - or lack there of?

                        I also think HD is the key to the success of this product. There are plenty of other choices out there for regular SD movies. If this product can advertise the fact that you can get HD movies without having to enter into the format war between HD dvd and blue ray people will flock to this. I have pre-ordered this in the hope that this will become a reality. I know of alot of people that would jump on this if it delivered HD movies.


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                          Re: High Definition HD Content - or lack there of?

                          Ok my 2 cents worth....

                          Having just purchased my first true 1080p LCD( I have 1 720p) I am looking forward to HD content, I have 2-3mbps dsl speed and I am fine with downloading the movie partially or in full to wait for it....

                          But...I will hold off buying the system until HD content is released on the box. Reason? I wanted to buy this box to use the full extent of my 1080p LCD...so if HD never makes it to the box (prove it first before you comment) Then I go the LG Blu-Ray/HD dual format DVD player and buy my content as I always have from Best Buy, etc...

                          Comments below were correct from a consumer point of view, too many systems out there have promised something that doesn't come to fruition, most of us have been burned in the past.

                          I will buy this unit when two things happen

                          1. HD content is made available in decent numbers.
                          2. Hard Drive back-up (USB Hard drive topic) is confirmed in advertising/writing by the company.

                          last...I want to applaud the company for a great product, but you have to come through on the above items if you want customers to buy it.

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                            Re: High Definition HD Content - or lack there of?

                            The plan is to have HD content. Beyond that I can't comment. As to the off box hard drive storage - it is absolutely, 100% positively in the works. You'll be able to plug an external USB hard drive into the box, it will then format the drive and store content on it. There are 2 USB ports on the box. This is a significant pieces of software to update and right now it's more important to make sure that the early adopters have a thrilling video experience. So the focus is on making sure the box works right, is able to deliver the content you want and works like it should. Then the additional stuff can be added in.

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                              Also, I believe the USB hard drive feature is committed to in the FAQ published by Vudu...

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