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  • RonV
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    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

    Originally posted by Rusdude View Post
    I'm almost positive that I read an article that says that Vudu outsources some of encoding duties. I thought it was this article (http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/vudu...-options-open/), but that doesn't seem to be it. Still, NTV's article is very interesting...
    I have yet to find an article about VUDU outsourcing but it could be true. There are plenty of CPU farms out there. Using those cycles you could save some money.

    From my perspective its the quality of the final work that makes or breaks the product. I am sure that everyone is looking for that "automated" testing tool for video quality but its just not there. It's still the human eyes and ears that must grade the final product. Until we can plug in digitally to the brain to watch and listen to content, we still depend on the final analog product that our brains interpret.

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  • Rusdude
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    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

    Originally posted by RonV View Post
    VUDU does their own encoding. H.264 is the standard that they are using. Here is the reference I use:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
    I'm almost positive that I read an article that says that Vudu outsources some of encoding duties. I thought it was this article (http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/vudu...-options-open/), but that doesn't seem to be it. Still, NTV's article is very interesting...

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  • HeadHodge
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    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

    Thanks for the feedback, sounds like another boon-doggle to me.

    Regards

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  • RonV
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    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

    If you like Rube Goldberg just for fun take a look at this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8DjQ2DXs7s

    Also loved the incedable machine and crazy machine games. These guys really take it to the next level. I've been waiting for the competition for the last 6 months.

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  • aaronwt
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    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

    ANd what happens when the component outputs are restricted?
    A device that captured component out would have been welcomed by me 6 or 7 years ago(when all my HD watching was through component and VGA), but since switching everything I use to digital(DVI/HDMI) starting in 2005, I will never use component outs again.

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  • NA9D
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    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

    Originally posted by RonV View Post
    I am missing something here. Its supposed to be a DVR and it only has component and composite connectors? It mentions TV a few time in the link but yet there is no tuner? I guess they are hoping that you buy an external tuner that can output component at 1080i?

    I see this as another component of a Rube Goldberg machine. You need external hardware such as a PC and Tuner to realize its full potential. Wouldn't be very high on the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) scale.
    Right, It's another video capture device. It uses IR blasters to change the box, doesn't have a tuner from what I can tell and it needs a computer...I'd rather get the TiVoHD...

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  • NA9D
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    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

    Originally posted by aaronwt View Post
    You should be able to get a refund from DirecTV since it wasn't 5.1 as advertised. At least they used to do that when I had DirecTV years ago.
    He said he complained and got refunded...

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  • RonV
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    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

    Originally posted by RobertHodge View Post
    Hey Replay-Boy,

    Check this out.

    http://www.hauppage.com/site/products/hd_pvr.html

    (wanted to post it but didn't want to create a new thread, unless there was interest).

    More discussion at RonV's favorite (well maybe 2nd) site: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=13557688
    I am missing something here. Its supposed to be a DVR and it only has component and composite connectors? It mentions TV a few time in the link but yet there is no tuner? I guess they are hoping that you buy an external tuner that can output component at 1080i?

    I see this as another component of a Rube Goldberg machine. You need external hardware such as a PC and Tuner to realize its full potential. Wouldn't be very high on the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) scale.

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  • aaronwt
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    Originally posted by RobertHodge View Post
    Just finished watching American Gangster.

    I rented the HD/Surround Sound version from Directv for $4.99.

    The picture quality was good but the audio was stereo (not DD5.1 as advertised). The picture also had major lip-sync problems. I felt like I was watching a Japanese dubbed movie. It was so bad I couldn't even finish watching it. So I complained and got a refund for it.

    So instead, I rented and watched it on VUDU for $3.99. The picture quality wasn't quite as good (because it was SD), but wasn't that bad either and very watchable. The sound was stereo also, but no lip sync problems. And best of all VUDU offered the Unrated Extended version of the movie (Directv did not).

    So I'm giving the point to VUDU on this one. Good job!!!

    I might be unbalanced, but I'm fair.
    You should be able to get a refund from DirecTV since it wasn't 5.1 as advertised. At least they used to do that when I had DirecTV years ago.

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  • HeadHodge
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    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

    Hey Replay-Boy,

    Check this out.

    http://www.hauppage.com/site/products/hd_pvr.html

    (wanted to post it but didn't want to create a new thread, unless there was interest).

    More discussion at RonV's favorite (well maybe 2nd) site: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=13557688

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  • HeadHodge
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    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

    Just finished watching American Gangster.

    I rented the HD/Surround Sound version from Directv for $4.99.

    The picture quality was good but the audio was stereo (not DD5.1 as advertised). The picture also had major lip-sync problems. I felt like I was watching a Japanese dubbed movie. It was so bad I couldn't even finish watching it. So I complained and got a refund for it.

    So instead, I rented and watched it on VUDU for $3.99. The picture quality wasn't quite as good (because it was SD), but wasn't that bad either and very watchable. The sound was stereo also, but no lip sync problems. And best of all VUDU offered the Unrated Extended version of the movie (Directv did not).

    So I'm giving the point to VUDU on this one. Good job!!!

    I might be unbalanced, but I'm fair.

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  • aaronwt
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    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

    HughesNet is for a last resort. In areas where you can't get anything else like remote areas.

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  • NA9D
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    Isn't HughesNet part of directTV?

    Anyhow, the bandwidth cap is there and the reason is you are sharing that bandwidth with EVERY SINGLE PERSON the satellite reaches which is basically the whole US and then some. So yeah, they can't allow bandwidth hogs. The Vudu would be a definite no-no on it. Also your latency is quite horrible since you have to go up to the satellite, back to earth, over the net, back to the satellite and back down. Latency is typically around 400 mS if I remember my numbers correctly.

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  • Nded
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    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

    Originally posted by RobertHodge View Post
    Does anyone know anything good or bad about HughesNet as an internet provider?....snip....
    Lots of talk about HughesNet can be found at http://www.dslreports.com/forum/sat - looks like one of the biggest gripes is being "FAP'd", which is their vernacular for when your bandwidth is drastically reduced after you download a ton of stuff. Overall, the consensus is that if you live somewhere that has access to something else (Cable, DSL, Semaphore), you'll probably want to stay away from it.

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  • HeadHodge
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    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

    Does anyone know anything good or bad about HughesNet as an internet provider? It seems like it should have good download speeds. But don't know if you can upload or not. I've seen some of their dishes around, and there fairly hefty looking.

    I thought I would try to discuss something about satellites without mentioning how Phasgorsmic Directv is!!

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