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    #16
    Re: Vudu first impressions

    Originally posted by kikar View Post
    You are right about today's compression but I think great strides are being made with AVC and VC-1 to get as close to the original source as possible. A lot of video compression seems to be taking cues from the sound world where DD, DD+, and DTS are compressed but never decompressed to the original source. Now if only video can continue following sound's lead as DD has given us TrueHD and DTS has given us DTS-HD MA ( both sound Amazing ).
    Do you have any good links for AVC or VC-1?? Also never heard of DTS-HD MA, what does that stand for??

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      #17
      Re: Vudu first impressions

      I watched a blu-ray DVD (Juno) with the wife last night and we did not see any artifacts or banding - so the banding and artifacts we see on Vudu are due to the compression in our particular case. (just wanted to give an update since when I posted this I was not sure if we got the same artifacts with a disc).

      The wife and I are really enjoying our Vudu. I'm so glad we got it.

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        #18
        Re: Vudu first impressions

        Originally posted by calseeor View Post
        I watched a blu-ray DVD (Juno) with the wife last night and we did not see any artifacts or banding - so the banding and artifacts we see on Vudu are due to the compression in our particular case. (just wanted to give an update since when I posted this I was not sure if we got the same artifacts with a disc).

        The wife and I are really enjoying our Vudu. I'm so glad we got it.
        Glad to hear that you are enjoying the VUDU. Yep there is a major difference in what 4 mbps gets in video quality vs about 25 mbps. Until we all have broadband that can bring in 50 mbps we won't be seeing much in blu-ray quality in the VOD world.

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          #19
          Re: Vudu first impressions

          I can totally appreciate that Ron.

          So the Vudu HD is comparable to what? Broadcast HD (which I have never seen)? Normal DVD? Just trying to underwstand the technology here.

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            #20
            Re: Vudu first impressions

            Originally posted by calseeor View Post
            I can totally appreciate that Ron.

            So the Vudu HD is comparable to what? Broadcast HD (which I have never seen)? Normal DVD? Just trying to underwstand the technology here.
            Vudu HD is on par with Broadcast quality HD.

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              #21
              Re: Vudu first impressions

              Originally posted by HeadHodge View Post
              Do you have any good links for AVC or VC-1?? Also never heard of DTS-HD MA, what does that stand for??
              AVC is basically H.264 which Vudu uses. VC-1 is Microsoft's version proprietary to those who bow at the temple of Bill. Fortunately, H.264 is pretty much becoming the standard.

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                #22
                Re: Vudu first impressions

                Originally posted by RonV View Post
                Glad to hear that you are enjoying the VUDU. Yep there is a major difference in what 4 mbps gets in video quality vs about 25 mbps. Until we all have broadband that can bring in 50 mbps we won't be seeing much in blu-ray quality in the VOD world.
                I guess it will be a long time. Eleven years ago I had a faster connection than most people do now. I had 5mbs down/1mbs up in 1997.
                And they way the providers like Comcast and Time Warner are talking about implementing bandwidth caps, even if the speeds do increase, it will change what people download.

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                  #23
                  Re: Vudu first impressions

                  Originally posted by NA9D View Post
                  AVC is basically H.264 which Vudu uses. VC-1 is Microsoft's version proprietary to those who bow at the temple of Bill. Fortunately, H.264 is pretty much becoming the standard.
                  I bow to bill I like VC-1. Just like I don't use MP3s I use WMAs for my audio

                  But seriously, the result should be the same if encoded properly between VC1 and H.264.

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                    #24
                    Re: Vudu first impressions

                    Originally posted by RonV View Post
                    Until we all have broadband that can bring in 50 mbps we won't be seeing much in blu-ray quality in the VOD world.
                    Or until I can convince RonV and Greg to band together and create the ultimate killer compression routine that will make them both RICH!!! To make it truly historical, they would have to develop it in their garage.

                    Originally posted by calseeor View Post
                    So the Vudu HD is comparable to what? Broadcast HD (which I have never seen)? Normal DVD? Just trying to underwstand the technology here.
                    Your answer is documented fairly well in this forum, but it's kinda spread out, so you'll have to spend a little time hunting it all down.

                    There is a post somewhere where Sturgeon, the publisher of HDNET, did a write up on VUDU once and called VUDU to find out the level of compression that VUDU uses. There is also a few posts that refer to the H.264 specs that fairly well explains what Sturgeon found out from VUDU.

                    The part I'm not sure about is whether the term "Broadcast" quality refers to the same term as what Sturgeon found. Or if it more simply means the quality is as good or better than what you can get from Digital TV broadcasts and/or Satellite transmissions.

                    RonV first posted that term, so he should best know the answer to that one. (Correction: It was NA9D)

                    Regards

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                      #25
                      Re: Vudu first impressions

                      I call VUDU better than broadcast quality. Becasue all broadcast sources I've seen since going HD in 2001 always has a macroblocking problem with bright flashes and fast pans. That problem is rare on the VUDU encodes.

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                        #26
                        Re: Vudu first impressions

                        DTS HD MA is DTS-HD (self explanatory) MA (master audio) like Dolby's TrueHD it is a compression that when decompressed is lossless audio.

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                          #27
                          Re: Vudu first impressions

                          Originally posted by kikar View Post
                          DTS HD MA is DTS-HD (self explanatory) MA (master audio) like Dolby's TrueHD it is a compression that when decompressed is lossless audio.
                          Thanks!!!!

                          Do you know why they both call it HD?? Picture quality doesn't seem to correlate to Sound quality, unless you take the term high definition very generically.

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                            #28
                            Re: Vudu first impressions

                            Originally posted by kikar View Post
                            DTS HD MA is DTS-HD (self explanatory) MA (master audio) like Dolby's TrueHD it is a compression that when decompressed is lossless audio.
                            Sorry for the extra post, but I forgot to ask......

                            I read several posts about people wanting DD7.1 support. If you could have DD5.1 without compression loss, or DD7.1 with normal compression, what would you prefer?? It may not be a fair question, but I'm just trying to determine whether DD7.1 has much added value to the audio experience.

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                              #29
                              Re: Vudu first impressions

                              Originally posted by HeadHodge View Post
                              Sorry for the extra post, but I forgot to ask......

                              I read several posts about people wanting DD7.1 support. If you could have DD5.1 without compression loss, or DD7.1 with normal compression, what would you prefer?? It may not be a fair question, but I'm just trying to determine whether DD7.1 has much added value to the audio experience.
                              Well, first of all, you need a DD7.1 setup to obtain the benefit. I've decided that even though my receiver is 7.1 capable, I'm not going to go that route because putting side speakers in my viewing room is really not logistically possible. I don't really have a good place to put them. I've toyed with going 6.1 though.

                              But I would rather see 7.1 with compression than 5.1 w/o. I don't think the average person can hear compression artifacts in something like a movie. Even the most trained ears have difficulty with just music.

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                                #30
                                Re: Vudu first impressions

                                Originally posted by HeadHodge View Post
                                Thanks!!!!

                                Do you know why they both call it HD?? Picture quality doesn't seem to correlate to Sound quality, unless you take the term high definition very generically.
                                They use the HD genericly as does Dolby. If it has HD it must be great. DD+, which is used by Vudu, is no slouch either. DD+ is used on most HD-DVDs and is a good compression. Now if only Vudu would release a box that could decode it.

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