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    Apologies if this has been asked before...

    I just read today that Netflix HD titles are coming to the 360 and the Tivo Series 3 and HD. I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see some form come to the PS3. AppleTv's look poised for an update within the next few months, and Amazon is pushing they're Unbox stuff like gangbusters. The digital distribution market is starting to look extremely crowded with big players. Do you feel competition actually helps Vudu, since more companies providing media means Studios will be less likely to make exclusive deals? Or that people like Amazon and Apple will muscle other players out of the market with lucrative deals and tie-ins? I feel like Vudu needs a commercial:P
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    Re: Apologies if this has been asked before...

    I think the competition is good. The more revenue that VOD sales can generate, the better. The studios have a lucrative cash cow in the DVD market and they are unwilling to risk that business on an "unproven" distribution strategy like VOD. Until VOD generates significant revenue we will continue to see the restrictions and headaches in terms of licensing, etc. So it's all good and it's all about user choice.

    Heck, the Netflix deal with Tivo is making me think about getting a Netflix account as there is a number of TV shows that I could stream at no extra charge....

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      #3
      Re: Apologies if this has been asked before...

      I'm curious to see what happens with this Netflix stuff. Mainly I'm interested in seeing what their library looks like. If it can compete with Vudu's library in terms of selection then I honestly think that it could harm Vudu's current business model.

      No one will want to pay per view when they can just pay a low fixed fee per month for unlimited streaming IF the libraries are equivalent.

      Having said that, Vudu does have a few things going for them. Their GUI is pretty elegant (save for the HORRIBLE organization of My TV Shows and My Movies) and having three tiers of audio/video quality on most movies is pretty amazing.

      I really want Vudu to succeed. I LOVE my box and I've immensely enjoyed it over the past year. It's basically perfect for me as I typically only watch about 3-4 movies per month plus a few Family Guy episodes here and there. But most of the movies I watch are in HD, so at $5.99 a pop that equates to somewhere between $18-$24/month. If I can get the same selection of movies through Netflix (even if only at SD quality) for a fixed fee of $9/month then it's going to be hard to justify renting through Vudu.

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        Re: Apologies if this has been asked before...

        Some initial thoughts:

        In general the competition is good (i.e. for the long term development of VOD) but I don't think it's going to be good for EVERYONE. I think someone's going to be pushed out or at least to the fringe. I think consumers will pay most attention to a few areas, and the service(s) that least accomodates each area will get pushed further and further out of the business. The considerations that early adopters focus on will be different than those focused on by mainstreamers so I think a key task will be for each VOD service to successfully transition their business plan to the mainstream customer. On the fly I would put these areas of focus in this order (again for the "mainstream" user):

        1) Start-up Cost and continuing cost
        2) Content
        3) Quality of the Product (PQ, interface quality)
        4) Viability of the company

        Vudu is a nice system, particularly for early adopters. To go mainstream I think it needs:

        1) To be cheaper, especially when considering the competition and the added cost for most mainstreamers of spending another $100 on wireless. Pricing of older rentals is nice (love the 99 cents deal) but they need to at least make their HD rentals the same as ATV's.
        2) Content is good, HDX and HD are growing- I think they are good here- maybe some improved marketing. TV needs to be better but will probably come in time.
        3) The "soft" side of Vudu's quality is good but I really feel they need to build the connection to the user's Computer. Being such a closed system is going to hurt them as the competition passes them in this
        4) This piggybacks on #3. Consider what would happen if Vudu went out of business

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          Re: Apologies if this has been asked before...

          well, hopefully apple doesn't intro some crazy nice VOD appletv revision anytime soon so I can live happily with my tivo and vudu. I can already see the trendy commercials and fanboys assaulting the internet gadget blogs about how Apple invented video streaming....

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            Re: Apologies if this has been asked before...

            I think competion is good to the degree that it legtimizes the movie via the internet distribution model and the benefits the consumer derives in subsequent better quality and lower priced products.

            For example, I believe competition will cause VUDU to drop their HD rental price from $5.99 to $4.99.

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              #7
              Re: Apologies if this has been asked before...

              Originally posted by HeadHodge View Post
              For example, I believe competition will cause VUDU to drop their HD rental price from $5.99 to $4.99.
              Not this year cheese head.

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                #8
                Re: Apologies if this has been asked before...

                Originally posted by Nded View Post
                Not this year cheese head.
                It's HeadCheese.

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                  Re: Apologies if this has been asked before...

                  Yes, I'm very interested to see where Netflix's VOD heads. Considering they almost certainly have to pay for every stream regardless of what they charge customers, it means that the real incentive is to keep people from streaming too much.

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                    Re: Apologies if this has been asked before...

                    Originally posted by jleavens View Post
                    Yes, I'm very interested to see where Netflix's VOD heads. Considering they almost certainly have to pay for every stream regardless of what they charge customers, it means that the real incentive is to keep people from streaming too much.
                    An enlarged prostrate will correct that problem.

                    Happy Halloween!!

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