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    Vudu vs Netflix

    I've been a Vudu user for a few months and am impressed with the picture quality and ease of use of the system. But I am finding that about 8 out of 10 titles that I want to watch are available for purchase only and I have no interest in purchasing them. On the other hand, I checked and every single one of them is available for rent on Netflix.

    I've read the long sticky which blames the studios and licensing issues for the inability to offer titles for rent. But, if Netflix can do it, that explanation doesn't hold water - at least for me. Unless this get a lot better soon, I won't be refreshing my account with Vudu.
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    The IP laws regarding rental of physical discs is not the same as the laws and agreements for digital downloads. I know the owners of the Vudu Company would prefer to offer rent and purchase of all titles, in all formats when appropriate (really don't need an HDX version of The Simpson's Movie). Their hands are tied by the contracts being enforced by the studios. With regards to your water holder, do you just not believe that it really is a legal matter?

    Fact: As of right now, there are about 6796 Movies in the regular Vudu catalog (excludes TV titles and P0rn). Of those 6796 movies, 5122 have rental options (over 75% of the standard movie catalog).

    Are you really finding 80% of your movie choices in the less than 25% of movies that only offer purchase choices? Is it possible you are just getting frustrated by the 30 day "purchase only" window on most new titles? With over 12,000 total titles in the Vudu, I've found it quite easy to wait 30 days to rent the new movies. My Vudu "wishlist" has more movies in it than I will watch for many months.

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      #3
      Re: Vudu vs Netflix

      Dunno where the OP has been, but the 30 day/24hour rule has been there for awhile. Once you get 30 days behind on releases, its really a moot point.

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        Originally posted by Nded View Post
        Are you really finding 80% of your movie choices in the less than 25% of movies that only offer purchase choices?
        Originally posted by elwaylite View Post
        Once you get 30 days behind on releases, its really a moot point.
        I'm seeing a lot of titles on my own personal wish list blocked and they are over the 30 day embargo (e.g. No Country..., There Will Be Blood, Sunshine, Casino Royal). The problem is that while these movies were on Vudu as rentals 30 days after the DVD street date, they've since been pulled because of other licensing agreements. Some of these have been out of theaters for more than a year, it's worth noting.

        This trend has to change if the studios want to start making serious money from downloads.

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          Re: Vudu vs Netflix

          Originally posted by Citizen Erased View Post
          I'm seeing a lot of titles on my own personal wish list blocked and they are over the 30 day embargo (e.g. No Country..., There Will Be Blood, Sunshine, Casino Royal). The problem is that while these movies were on Vudu as rentals 30 days after the DVD street date, they've since been pulled because of other licensing agreements. Some of these have been out of theaters for more than a year, it's worth noting.

          This trend has to change if the studios want to start making serious money from downloads.

          Now this I definitely agree with.

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            Re: Vudu vs Netflix

            I especially like documentaries and foreign films. If you browse these categories, you'll see that the vast majority are for purchase only. And it can't be because of differences in the terms of physical vs electronic rentals. Netflix has an online, instant viewing option (though, granted, the quality is not yet equal to Vudu's). Here are just a few titles that are available for instant streaming (rental) from Netflix, but only for purchase from Vudu.

            The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
            Wind
            Offside
            God Grew Tired of Us
            My Kid could paint that
            Steep
            Fast, cheap, and out of control
            Caramel
            Moliere
            The Lives of Others
            Black Book
            Vitus

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              Re: Vudu vs Netflix

              No question about it. It needs to change.

              But in the electronic distribution system, the studios have two different business units to handle rentals and sales. The royalties to the performers, content owners and others are also completely different.

              Netflix can provide all these movies because they deal in distribution of physical media. Physical media has been around for some 25+ years and the rules and licenses are well established. Electronic OnDemand distribution of an HD movie is something that was unheard of just a few years ago. This is a part of the industry in its infancy.

              The problem is that the studios have to walk a line between their investments in things like BlueRay and replacement technologies like HDX. It's not good business to risk a solid and secure business model (ie: physical media) with a new one that is still rapidly developing (electronic media). It's why you see them going slowly with it.

              The Vudu is not meant to be your only source of entertainment or movies. It's one of potentially several. It's the best in what it does but it does not do everything.

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                Eventually, physical media will be reduced to the same sort of novelty is has become with music & photos. We're still probably 5 years from that point, but it's already a process well on its way. Vudu may not be the platform that wins out, but the format will. I'm definitely one of the newer adopters on here, but just from reading through some of the posts on here & older info elsewhere, it's pretty amazing to see how much things have changed even in the past year. Keep in mind, though, that physical media also has the backing of the marketing machine that is the collective of electronics manufacturers. Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, Sharp, LG, & plenty of others all have an interest in keeping the prevailing physical media formats alive.

                My point is that, as mentioned before, this market isn't one that movie studios are either familiar & comfortable with or open to just yet. Once it starts to reach more of their customers, it'll get the same treatment of refinements in distribution & pricing that DVD & Blu Ray are currently afforded. Until then, I'll put up with the imperfections for what is, for me, an otherwise far superior system. Until I move my box to a much bigger & better screen with more than a 2.0 setup, I don't have any plans on buying or renting a disc of any kind. If we get to true HD & MA, I still wouldn't [picture be damned...sorry, elway ].

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                  Re: Vudu vs Netflix

                  Originally posted by NA9D View Post

                  Netflix can provide all these movies because they deal in distribution of physical media.... This is a part of the industry in its infancy.

                  The problem is that the studios have to walk a line between their investments in things like BlueRay and replacement technologies like HDX. It's not good business to risk a solid and secure business model (ie: physical media) with a new one that is still rapidly developing (electronic media). It's why you see them going slowly with it.

                  Exactly the case. From the studios' standpoint, why forego billions of dollars in TV output agreements (which almost always require VOD holdbacks, hence the unavailability of digital rental through platforms like Vudu) in order to generate a couple million dollars in additional digital distribution rental revenues?

                  If studios forego traditional revenue streams too quickly (not advisable as a general rule of business, and certainly not in economic times such as these), they risk collapse of their business models. After all, you just don't exchange a $20 bill for a $2 bill, no matter how unique it is. On the other hand, move too slowly and you miss out on great opportunity.

                  At this point, the demand in terms of volume and potential revenue just isn't there. But look how far we've come in such a short period of time: Vudu, Netflix' WatchNow, Hulu, iTunes, Amazon / TiVo, Microsoft... we're definitely on that path, and just two short years ago, describing all the options available today would have sounded like some futuristic / parallel Sci-Fi world of convenience.

                  I'm just as eager to have everything I want, in any manner and on any device, whenever and wherever I want it. But in the meantime there's plenty of options available so that you can get almost anything you want in almost any way, shape or form. And that's still pretty damn cool.

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                    Re: Vudu vs Netflix

                    I don't understand the need to nitpick every single detail.... Good lord people. (original poster)


                    I had a Netflix subscription and tossed it out immediately after buying my Vudu. I use my Vudu 99% of the time for renting. If the movie is worth owning I go out and buy it on the format of my choice (be it LD, DVD or BD).

                    I'm wearing the crap out of my Vudu remote I use it so much. I love this thing. So what if Netflix has different movies.

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                      #11
                      Re: Vudu vs Netflix

                      It all depends on what your viewing habbits are. Some folks have to have the latest release when the studio's release them. Others can wait.

                      I am in the second category so the VOD model doesn't effect me. I just add the title to my wishlist and then go though that list a few times a week to see if what I want is now rentable. Its so simple.

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                        I actually came back to Netflix. I was with them from 1998 until early 2008 when I dropped them. I recently came back, strictly for the video streaming features. Since they offer it now on the 360 and TiVo, I have it set up on one TiVo and three 360's. Of course the VUDU quality is better but Netflix does have a lot of TV shows available for streaming. For me it's just another option for viewing content that is convenient since I don't have to deal with renting a disc. Which I will never do again. I'm done renting discs of any kind.

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                          Originally posted by Electric Frenzy View Post
                          I had a Netflix subscription and tossed it out immediately after buying my Vudu. I use my Vudu 99% of the time for renting. If the movie is worth owning I go out and buy it on the format of my choice (be it LD, DVD or BD).
                          Go OUT and buy it?!? That's a figure of speech, right? I don't remember the last time I made an electronics/media purchase offline. Between DVDPriceSearch/DeepDiscountDVD and NewEgg, I don't even worry about retail loss leaders any more.

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                            Originally posted by MaxH View Post
                            Go OUT and buy it?!? That's a figure of speech, right? I don't remember the last time I made an electronics/media purchase offline. Between DVDPriceSearch/DeepDiscountDVD and NewEgg, I don't even worry about retail loss leaders any more.

                            Unlike yourself I don't share this mindset. I'm a small business owner and I know how important walk-in purchases are to my business. I try to support businesses in my community. I may pay a few dollars more but I'd rather pay a little now than have my town shut down or be forced to buy everything online because cheap skates wanted to save $2 on a $35 item.

                            my local economy means more to me than apparently, yours does to you.

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                              Re: Vudu vs Netflix

                              Originally posted by Electric Frenzy View Post
                              Unlike yourself I don't share this mindset. I'm a small business owner and I know how important walk-in purchases are to my business. I try to support businesses in my community. I may pay a few dollars more but I'd rather pay a little now than have my town shut down or be forced to buy everything online because cheap skates wanted to save $2 on a $35 item.

                              my local economy means more to me than apparently, yours does to you.
                              Now now EF, you gotta give MaxH a break on this one - he's from the Washington DC area, so anything that might cause that town to shut down can only help the rest of the country and your local economy ....

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