vudu should do more "free features" since we offer up our P2P bandwidth for service

[NA9D]

Re: vudu should do more "free features" since we offer up our P2P bandwidth for servi

My network is also completely idle this morning.

[aaronwt]

Re: vudu should do more "free features" since we offer up our P2P bandwidth for servi

My network is also completely idle this morning.

Right now all three of mine are still uploading at approx 330kbs each. The same as last night/early this morning.

[PANDT]

Re: vudu should do more "free features" since we offer up our P2P bandwidth for servi

vudu should do more "free features" since we offer up our P2P bandwidth for service. after all, they are in it for profit, and we are paying for our internet connections.
i literally had to shell out $20 extra dollars, just because vudu didn't credit me my $50 in movie credits from the christmas special, which i am going to make sure they return to me.

Well, I for one am happy that there is now a use for all that bandwidth that I am paying for. I don't understand the logic in which one would 'expect' a return on used bandwidth while participating in a P2P network after all, isn't that the point?
I just activated my new box yesterday and I, also, got in on that Christmass special and was slightly surprised about the additional $20.00 fee, however, I must admit that my first concern was that the bonus time would be applied ASAP since my wife was playing with the box and the downloads were adding up fast! SinceI was partaking of the holiday cheer in liquid form I didn't much care at the time but upon checking this morning I find that the promotional $50.00 has now been applied to my account without having to ask for it.

The thought of requesting a refund never crossed my mind.

[NA9D]

Re: vudu should do more "free features" since we offer up our P2P bandwidth for servi

Right now all three of mine are still uploading at approx 330kbs each. The same as last night/early this morning.

You might be farther down the network hierarchy. The database is propagated among boxes. So while say Ed's box and mine were busy say Tuesday and Wednesday, perhaps yours was busy Wednesday and today. That's perhaps an idea with it..

[aaronwt]

Re: vudu should do more "free features" since we offer up our P2P bandwidth for servi

Just now two boxes dropped off to basically nothing and the box in this room is still chugging away.

Anyway for me I have the bandwidth to spare and I have no caps so whatever amount is uploaded, is fine with me. It certainly doesn't affect any gaming on my 360 or any other things I do on my network except lower my upload bandwidth from 20mbs to 19mbs when all three are uploading. And the only time I hit my max upload is when I upload files to one of my domains.

[RonV]

Re: vudu should do more "free features" since we offer up our P2P bandwidth for servi

There is more to P2P than just having the bandwidth available. There is ranking in reliability, latency, etc. So if you are reliable...

Just now two boxes dropped off to basically nothing and the box in this room is still chugging away.

Anyway for me I have the bandwidth to spare and I have no caps so whatever amount is uploaded, is fine with me. It certainly doesn't affect any gaming on my 360 or any other things I do on my network except lower my upload bandwidth from 20mbs to 19mbs when all three are uploading. And the only time I hit my max upload is when I upload files to one of my domains.

[bluedrop]

Re: vudu should do more "free features" since we offer up our P2P bandwidth for servi

There is more to P2P than just having the bandwidth available. There is ranking in reliability, latency, etc. So if you are reliable...

yesterday was my first day with vudu. buena vista social club was the only purchase i wished to make, it was a whopping $10, for *standard definition only* (a dvd is cheaper at half.com, shipped) only 2 rentals out of the whole selection piqued my interest (both HD and SD), which were .99, and yet i was suckered into $70 movie credits just to get started

btw, the terms of service, is actually the loosely called for the sake of this conversation fine print, which is "that which isn't printed in plain letter of the box at the brick and mortar store" so in other words, so while not ambigious or elusive, isn't something that is a selling point but rather, a stipulation of service, take it or leave it type thing, which, isn't there as a selling point, but rather, a detraction. there is quite a bit of activism going on about all the metering going on with ISPs in america due to content providers, so the choice of vudo using p2p, is definitely one they are hoping other people to work out in their favor. again, the titles, are not cheap, and the selection, is not entirely the bestest, so my suggesting they should pass on their savings, to us, is actual valid, considering their prices, are still high it may have the most recent rentals though, so thats ok its good for the kids and saves a trip to blockbuster netflix roku player is now hd capable, and they are 100% streaming, and had no downtime last night for a low $8-9 a month too, not too bad selection. they pay for their own bandwidth, so, that plan, works for them :/ roku is very pretty and i like the ted talks and the tv news things on it, though really, the quality not too good.

one man seemed to know statisticially speaking the type of bandwidth the vudu service brought in and out in a daily basis. i could not recogonize the mesasurements he used. i really must do my research and see how AT&T dsl is doing with metering, because in my city, its either Comcast or AT&T, and AT&T is actually a little cheaper, and not quite as nazi'ish, but very much more big brotherish

i probably would not be complaing so much were it not for the high prices on here and the lack of content available on vudu. but oh well, these are my impression on vudu, and p2p

[Nded]

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I am sort of amazed that out of 12,818 titles you could only find 3 that were of interest to you. Perhaps this is one of the reasons Vudu offers one of the best "money back guarantees" I've ever heard of for consumer electronics. Give it a test drive for a few weeks, if you haven't decided the Vudu lifestyle is for you, take it back. Heck, if the store prices go back to normal, you could probably sell it on eBay for a profit! I'm thinking the Hodge might have ordered a 100 extra Vudu's for just this reason!

[HeadHodge]

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I'm thinking the Hodge might have ordered a 100 extra Vudu's for just this reason!

Just trying to recoup all my 2008 Cheese and Chowder losses......

[Nded]

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yesterday was my first day with vudu. buena vista social club was the only purchase i wished to make, it was a whopping $10, for *standard definition only* (a dvd is cheaper at half.com, shipped) only 2 rentals out of the whole selection piqued my interest (both HD and SD), which were .99, and yet i was suckered into $70 movie credits just to get started

Please don't think I'm trying to beat you up here, but I gotta ask you some questions.

1) Did you not see that Buena Vista Social Club was available in HD for $3.99 rental?

2) Are you really wanting to watch that movie over and over and over again to make it worth purchasing?

3) What were the other 2 titles out of the whole catalog selection that piqued your interest?

4) What other movies have you watched and enjoyed lately?

I'm just trying to figure out what type of eclectic tastes you might have. Your statements are very hard for me to wrap up in context with my experience with the depth and breadth of the Vudu product and service.

I hope you will keep this conversation going, and let us know what you eventually decide to do with your Vudu.

[NA9D]

Re: vudu should do more "free features" since we offer up our P2P bandwidth for servi

yesterday was my first day with vudu. buena vista social club was the only purchase i wished to make, it was a whopping $10, for *standard definition only* (a dvd is cheaper at half.com, shipped) only 2 rentals out of the whole selection piqued my interest (both HD and SD), which were .99, and yet i was suckered into $70 movie credits just to get started
...
netflix roku player is now hd capable, and they are 100% streaming, and had no downtime last night for a low $8-9 a month too, not too bad selection. they pay for their own bandwidth, so, that plan, works for them :/ roku is

OK. This I don't get and I have to wonder about the veracity of what you are saying:

1.) Out of all the selection on Vudu - some 12,000 titles - you found THREE you were interested in?

2.) You say the Netflix player has a good selection.

I can just about guarantee you that Vudu has just about all the movies that Netflix has (TV shows excluded), has WAY more HD, has new releases, etc. And the quality is far better.

So please, don't tell me that you could only find 3 out of 12,000 that interest you. I just don't buy it...

[Nded]

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I see nothing wrong with somebody wanting to have both - the Vudu and the Roku. I am actually of the opposite opinion of Jon on how the 2 products catalogs would compare - I would be shocked if the 2 products have even 25% title overlap . From what I've been able to pickup, the netflix streaming catalog is almost entirely older catalog titles that they have managed to negotiate fairly low "per view" royalties - yes, Netflix is paying a royalty everytime somebody streams one of those movies. The Vudu on the other hand seems to have cherry picked some of the best movies across the last century, which Netflix could not possibly afford to offer with unlimited streaming.

I wish all of the Digital Download companies would post their catalogs for us consumers to be able to compare apples to apples.

[bluedrop]

Re: vudu should do more "free features" since we offer up our P2P bandwidth for servi

OK. This I don't get and I have to wonder about the veracity of what you are saying:

1.) Out of all the selection on Vudu - some 12,000 titles - you found THREE you were interested in?

oh, wow, maybe i'm missing something i did not see 12,000 titles. i'm certain of that. there couldn't have been 12,000 HD titles i'm sure. there really weren't too many that i saw. may i need to give it some time to propagate ? really all that i saw were really the latest rentals, thats all, nothing too exciting i would have liked to have seen more variety, i'm sure there would have been with 12,000 titles though, i'm certain i couldn't possibly had seen 12,000 titles, something must be going on

2.) You say the Netflix player has a good selection.

I can just about guarantee you that Vudu has just about all the movies that Netflix has (TV shows excluded), has WAY more HD, has new releases, etc. And the quality is far better.

So please, don't tell me that you could only find 3 out of 12,000 that interest you. I just don't buy it...

no, uhm, i think i'm missing something about vudu, uhm, either in the intercace or the service itself. i promise you all, i did not see a whole lot of seletion there i'm honestly not trying to give vudu a bad name, i could not have possibly have seen 12,000 titles though. thats weird, why wouldn't have it displayed all the titles to me ? i'm not srue why it would only display some of the results and not all of them. i'm not using any filtering. literally what i saw was much less than what netflix has.

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got it:

i relied on Explore HD alone :/ heh. its a little awkard for me to adjust to the little thumb thing for functions such as category sorting, so i just skipped that altogether and never thought it was ever significant. (its not too apparent for myself) i could have went my entire life believing my christmas present was a flop too thanks all

btw i would not care too much about the P2P implementation were it not for Comcast nazi's and pending AT&T proposals, which are the only two players in the city of Houston.

p.s. this brings back memories of my first binary transfer back in the 80's i was using pc-talk i think it was and i never could figure out that i needed to appened =x to the filename to get xmodem to work, then one day, i did it, and i had my first binary transfer at 300 baud : the world has never been the same :

[NA9D]

Re: vudu should do more "free features" since we offer up our P2P bandwidth for servi

I'm glad you figured that out. The selection on the box is just incredible. I think you'll like it in the end...

[Nded]

Re: vudu should do more "free features" since we offer up our P2P bandwidth for servi

Stick with comcast (until something better comes along, then kick them to the road) - you would be hard pressed to ever get over 250GB per month CAP even if you become a heavy duty Vudu user. I would estimate my Vudu traffic (and "other" internet traffic) is much higher than the typical user, and I've never broken 250GB in a month. You pretty much have to be a 24/7 Bit Torrent junkie to break that CAP.

P.S. Glad you figured out that there's a wee bit more to the interface and catalog - like an order of magnitude. I also want to applaud you for sticking to it and finding your mistakes vs. throwing out the baby with the bath water.