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    Locker Access Charge May Apply?

    I have read through the FAQ on UVVU and read that the content does not expire. I tried searching the forum to see if this question has been asked before.

    On the Son of Batman UV Redemption insert. Part of the fine print states "Locker access charge may apply after one year from redemption". Why would there be a charge after one year? Also, does this apply to UVVU.com itself or is this something that could happen within VUDU as well. Sorry if this has been asked before.
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    Re: Locker Access Charge May Apply?

    Originally posted by dunnvudu View Post
    I have read through the FAQ on UVVU and read that the content does not expire. I tried searching the forum to see if this question has been asked before.

    On the Son of Batman UV Redemption insert. Part of the fine print states "Locker access charge may apply after one year from redemption". Why would there be a charge after one year? Also, does this apply to UVVU.com itself or is this something that could happen within VUDU as well. Sorry if this has been asked before.
    Good question.

    One fear many have expressed is that access to stream titles may incur some form of monthly charge or pay-per-view.

    Although this has been written into ultraviolet terms, no UV provider to date has charged for playback. If any one ever did, all the viewers would just go watch their titles from an alternate UV provider.

    Time will tell, but I believe I am accurate in indicating that most here believe there will never be a charge for playback of a title from a UV library.

    That is my view too.

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      Re: Locker Access Charge May Apply?

      Originally posted by Walter-S_North_Carolina View Post
      Good question.

      One fear many have expressed is that access to stream titles may incur some form of monthly charge or pay-per-view.

      Although this has been written into ultraviolet terms, no UV provider to date has charged for playback. If any one ever did, all the viewers would just go watch their titles from an alternate UV provider.

      Time will tell, but I believe I am accurate in indicating that most here believe there will never be a charge for playback of a title from a UV library.

      That is my view too.
      I agree it's just a CYA provision, but with one caveat: Once CFF is available I wouldn't be surprised if some sites started charging for streams. UV downloads are a rather iffy proposition ATM due to DRM restrictions, but CFF is supposed to relax some of those restrictions in ways that should make downloading to external hard drives, NAS, SD cards, etc. a more viable option. Once that day arrives, some sites may decide it's cheaper to support free UV playback via CFF downloads than streaming, since DRM keys take up far less bandwidth (and server storage). Even then, however, it probably won't stick unless all UV sites impose a similar streaming charge.

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        Re: Locker Access Charge May Apply?

        I'd think retailers like Vudu would be very excited to get CFF up and running. It must cost a fortune to support all of the streaming and proprietary downloads.

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          Re: Locker Access Charge May Apply?

          Originally posted by tsken02 View Post
          I'd think retailers like Vudu would be very excited to get CFF up and running. It must cost a fortune to support all of the streaming and proprietary downloads.
          BW costs on a level they operate in are not that bad. I would venture a guess that the bulk of their costs are their staff and the licenses. Remember that they have to foot the bill for Gracenote, Adobe, Broadcast Engine licenses on top of the content licenses. I am sure there are others too.

          BW monthly costs has to be lower on the laundry list, I would imagine.

          Let's do some math.

          On a busy Saturday night, let's say there are one million users all watching an HDX show/movie at the same time. For round numbers, lets say each is pulling 4 Mbps. This is not the case due to the bursty nature of streaming, but lets go with that number.

          four times one million = 4,000,000 Mbps.

          translate this into Gb = 4,000

          translate this into 10-Gb = 400.

          So, in this scenario, Vudu would need 400 10Gb interconnections with a tier-1 carrier spread across all their p2p collocation sites.

          If they did it this way, it would not be too bad, but they don't.

          Terms say forum members should not attempt to reverse engineer so I will leave it at saying they do not do it this way. I am sure they do it another way common among high bandwidth players which further mitigates bandwidth costs.

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            Re: Locker Access Charge May Apply?

            Another thing to consider is the recent (and terrible) proposal from our good friend Tom "I Love Big Telecom" Wheeler, that would effectively allow ISPs to charge content providers (Vudu, Netflix, etc.) fees to deliver their content faster to users.

            Let's face it, Vudu has the best quality streams out there. However, those streams do come at a cost in the bandwidth department, especially when you start talking about HDX.

            As such, consider a scenario in which a competitor makes a deal with the likes of Comcast, Charter, etc. to get on those ISP's "fast lane". It stands to reason that Vudu, not wanting to be part of the "slower" traffic, might strike a similar deal with ISPs. In an effort to keep up, other UV providers might do the same.

            In that scenario, where does the money come from? It is not at all unreasonable to think those costs will be passed on to customers in the form of higher movie prices and/or a set fee to access/stream content.

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              Re: Locker Access Charge May Apply?

              Good point. The loss of net-neutrality would affect OTT streaming providers costs.

              I do not think that will occur, but it is a valid concern.

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