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  • stryperrocks67
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    Re: Redbox Streaming shutdown --- what does it mean to Ultraviolet's future?

    Originally posted by Walter-S_North_Carolina View Post
    Good news is the stupid RBI icon on my PS3 that I couldn't get rid of is finally gone.
    I fail to see what Runs Batted In has to do with this thread....




    Sorry..it's baseball playoffs time! Couldn't resist!

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  • stryperrocks67
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    Originally posted by Squatting Hen View Post
    I fail to see the point of this thread.

    So no one made you take the time to comment or read it if it is such a pointless thread.


    A lot of you are misunderstanding what my point is, apparently.

    My concern wasn't WHY they went under.....

    Think of the average person out there who has NOT gotten into UV yet, or one of the ones who absolutely hate it, and they hear about all of these people that lost movies they paid for because RI closed up.

    These people are going to lump Ultraviolet into the same category as Redbox Instant, because to them, a digital movie is a digital movie...no matter who it is through. So in their minds, there is just as much a chance of the "Ultraviolet Locker" or any other service closing.

    And you can scoff at their lack of understanding as much as you want, the reality is there are more people like them than there are people like us. Those are the people that UV needs to reach still to make the UV format hold up.


    So the person who said they should take opportunity to promote the advantages of the UV format and make sure people know the difference, is right.

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Re: Redbox Streaming shutdown --- what does it mean to Ultraviolet's future?

    Originally posted by echopulse View Post
    Redbox Instant never offered UV capability, if they had, all their movies would be safe. I would also suggest that maybe they wouldn't have had to shut down, because they might have had more customers using the service if they had UV caoability.

    Don't know if its too late, but vudu could step in and buy the customer's from redbox.
    Good news is the stupid RBI icon on my PS3 that I couldn't get rid of is finally gone.

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  • BlakkMajik3000
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    This is the perfect opportunity for UV to run some commercials. I'd like to see them do a couple like the Direct TV ads that are running now (don't get cable, blah blah).

    For UV, they could do some "Don't Lose Your Movies" type advertising.

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  • Squatting Hen
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    Originally posted by lujan View Post
    I wasn't the streaming issues for me. When I first got invited by Redbox for free streaming for a month, the selection was so bad that I didn't like any of the movies they had listed. Also, I already had Netflix so figured why get another subscription when I already have Netflix and they had such a much nicer selection.
    Yes. That was probably the biggest complaint, and I should have clearified that in my post. It didn't have a decent selection whatsoever.

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  • lujan
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    Originally posted by Squatting Hen View Post
    I fail to see the point of this thread.

    Redbox Streaming was AWFUL. It was panned by reviews and users. It didn't work, and failed. Happens all the time.

    This means nothing to UV. Nothing.

    Redbox Streaming entered a market they couldn't compete in, released a very, very poor product, and failed to correct and improve it.
    I wasn't the streaming issues for me. When I first got invited by Redbox for free streaming for a month, the selection was so bad that I didn't like any of the movies they had listed. Also, I already had Netflix so figured why get another subscription when I already have Netflix and they had such a much nicer selection.

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  • dbrandom
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    Originally posted by Squatting Hen View Post
    I fail to see the point of this thread.

    Redbox Streaming was AWFUL. It was panned by reviews and users. It didn't work, and failed. Happens all the time.

    This means nothing to UV. Nothing.

    Redbox Streaming entered a market they couldn't compete in, released a very, very poor product, and failed to correct and improve it.
    This was my point.

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  • echopulse
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    Redbox Instant never offered UV capability, if they had, all their movies would be safe. I would also suggest that maybe they wouldn't have had to shut down, because they might have had more customers using the service if they had UV caoability.

    Don't know if its too late, but vudu could step in and buy the customer's from redbox.

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  • Squatting Hen
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    Re: Redbox Streaming shutdown --- what does it mean to Ultraviolet's future?

    I fail to see the point of this thread.

    Redbox Streaming was AWFUL. It was panned by reviews and users. It didn't work, and failed. Happens all the time.

    This means nothing to UV. Nothing.

    Redbox Streaming entered a market they couldn't compete in, released a very, very poor product, and failed to correct and improve it.

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  • dbrandom
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    If they don't, Amazon may jump on it now that they are joining UV.

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  • Capt-Cupcake
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    Originally posted by stryperrocks67 View Post
    Why they shut down wasn't my concern....

    My point was that if the people who bought digital movies from them get screwed over on them and lose them, it could put a bad taste in the public's mouth for buying digital movies period.

    All of the differences between Vudu and Redbox won't matter to the general public, all they are going to do is equate RedBox Digital Movies as being the same thing as Ultraviolet Digital Movies, thus they would have fears of the same thing happening all over again.

    Ultraviolet is not generally well received by the masses already....it doesn't need any more negativity associated with it.

    I'm telling you, if Vudu is willing to 'take a hit' and sign up those redbox users with the promise that the films they bought on redbox would be made available to them free of charge on vudu it's a good deal. Yes, Vudu would essentially be giving films away that they received no payment for (seeing as the client's bought them from Redbox, not vudu) but they would also be growing a customer base who would remember that Vudu took care of them. It's good for the people who stand to lose films they bought on Redbox, and it's good P.R. for Vudu, and it expands the Vudu customer base.

    If Vudu is not already talking with Redbox, I suggest getting on it ASAP. This combined with instawatch could be one of the biggest boons for Vudu.

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  • Capt-Cupcake
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    Originally posted by stryperrocks67 View Post
    So a little over a week ago, Redbox Streaming shut down due to not being able to compete.

    As for the people who had bought digital rights to movies through them, they received an email saying that Redbox was working on a way to allow them to still play the movies they purchased.

    As far as I know, this has not been resolved yet. If someone knows otherwise, please inform me.

    But here is my question....

    Will this have a negative impact on how people view Ultraviolet?

    Will people become even more leery and untrusting of the UV format than they already are, thinking that the UV format could also belly up and leave them without their movies?
    This is an OPPORTUNITY.

    If Vudu or another UV retailer joined with Redbox, and converted all Redbox customers and their existing films to UV, everyone would win.

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  • dbrandom
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    In streaming movies, netflix could be considered a home depot, redbox never truly got it up and running (and Verizon has no experience either in that specific field). They are not bigger in that instance, only in that they have little movies rental boxes everywhere. And in three years, yes, ultraviolet still has some bugs, but for the infrastructure and the backing Ultraviolet has gotten in that short time, not to mention the percentage of the market they already have (in three short years) . . . Yah, they're not going anywhere and they've also recently been making new strides in studios and new providers. You're basically worried for nothing, and in most circles I run in, ultraviolet is the new thing and apple is quickly becoming a thing of the past (at least for movies).

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  • stryperrocks67
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    Originally posted by dbrandom View Post
    I get that, but my point is you're talking about a service that never took off in the first place vs a established service. That's like thinking since a mom and pop hardware store went out of business home depot must be next.

    And it actually makes Ultraviolet's position stronger, since even if one service tanks, your ultraviolet movies are still there. All the more reason to have Ultraviolet movies.

    You say that, but some UV movies don't show up on all the services. Vudu is the only one that consistently does.

    I also don't know how you think Ultraviolet is some tried and true method, it has only been available for streaming since the fall of 2011. That's only 3 years. They still have a ton of bugs and improvements they need to make to really succeed.

    Comparing a mom and pop hardware store and Home Depot is not an accurate comparison. Redbox the company is MUCH bigger than any mom and pop store...PLUS they had Verizon behind them. And Ultraviolet is no Home Depot...again..only 3 years since they rolled out streaming

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  • dbrandom
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    I get that, but my point is you're talking about a service that never took off in the first place vs a established service. That's like thinking since a mom and pop hardware store went out of business home depot must be next.

    And it actually makes Ultraviolet's position stronger, since even if one service tanks, your ultraviolet movies are still there. All the more reason to have Ultraviolet movies.

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