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    #46
    Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

    Originally posted by magicgoof View Post
    As a heads up, they may be starting to implement this.

    I just purchased a kids show in SD (because, really, do my kids need HD?) and immediately Vudu started showing me the upgrade fee to purchase it in HDX instead. There was an $8 difference, and that's what it shows buying the show in HDX would cost. It's displayed like their sales do, with the original price scratched out, and the new one laid over.
    That's been available for a while now... It only works for some TV Series only, and you had to had bought the title in vudu (not redeemed via code).

    http://watch.vudu.com/tv/season-offers/

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      #47
      Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

      How come this still isn't a thing? I'm thinking about getting a 4K TV, and I'd like to watch movies I own in UHD, but currently the only option to do that is to re-buy the movie. Usually for $30.

      I also have one SD movie I bought way back in the early days that I'd like to upgrade to HDX, but it's also only available for re-buy at full price. $15.

      If they can offer D2D for $5 they should be able to work out similar deals for resolution upgrades.

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        #48
        Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

        Originally posted by Dan203 View Post
        How come this still isn't a thing? I'm thinking about getting a 4K TV, and I'd like to watch movies I own in UHD, but currently the only option to do that is to re-buy the movie. Usually for $30.

        I also have one SD movie I bought way back in the early days that I'd like to upgrade to HDX, but it's also only available for re-buy at full price. $15.

        If they can offer D2D for $5 they should be able to work out similar deals for resolution upgrades.
        Wouldn't that be up to the studios to set a lower price? I don't expect Vudu to offer an upgrade at a loss.

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          #49
          Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

          Originally posted by Dan203 View Post
          How come this still isn't a thing? I'm thinking about getting a 4K TV, and I'd like to watch movies I own in UHD, but currently the only option to do that is to re-buy the movie. Usually for $30.

          I also have one SD movie I bought way back in the early days that I'd like to upgrade to HDX, but it's also only available for re-buy at full price. $15.

          If they can offer D2D for $5 they should be able to work out similar deals for resolution upgrades.
          Studios never offered any discounted upgrades for Beta / VHS, or LaserDisc; likewise they didn't for Vinyl, Cassette tapes, or CD's.

          If you wan't the latest version of something you generally have to buy it for some same price as everyone else even if you have a similar or older version.

          Discounted upgrades to latest product are of certainly a part of history but they're the exception, not the rule.

          Companies usually don't make money with these type of programs but offer them as a loss leader to get people hooked and buying related items.

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            #50
            Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

            Originally posted by jeremymc7 View Post
            Studios never offered any discounted upgrades for Beta / VHS, or LaserDisc; likewise they didn't for Vinyl, Cassette tapes, or CD's.

            If you wan't the latest version of something you generally have to buy it for some same price as everyone else even if you have a similar or older version.

            Discounted upgrades to latest product are of certainly a part of history but they're the exception, not the rule.

            Companies usually don't make money with these type of programs but offer them as a loss leader to get people hooked and buying related items.
            While you're right, the big difference between them and an upgrade from HDX to UHD, for the consumer, is simply changing the video file. For all of the others you listed, you had to literally buy new hardware to even be able to play it. In other words, you literally couldn't play a VHS on a LaserDisc player, or a CD on a Cassette player While, technically, you have to have a 4K TV to watch the UHD content, you still have the "downgrade" options of HDX and SD that's included with the UHD file and is fully compatible with current devices.

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              #51
              Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

              Originally posted by Kendog52361 View Post
              While you're right, the big difference between them and an upgrade from HDX to UHD, for the consumer, is simply changing the video file. For all of the others you listed, you had to literally buy new hardware to even be able to play it. In other words, you literally couldn't play a VHS on a LaserDisc player, or a CD on a Cassette player While, technically, you have to have a 4K TV to watch the UHD content, you still have the "downgrade" options of HDX and SD that's included with the UHD file and is fully compatible with current devices.
              Still have to buy new hardware.

              Tv's had to be replaced form 480 to 720 to 1080 to 4k

              DVD players had to replaced with BD with had to be replaced with UHD players.

              Roku's had to be replaced with UHD Roku's

              Even in these cases you might have been able to play you're old content but you at least had to buy new hardware.

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                #52
                Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

                The reason I think it makes good business sense to provide an upgrade path is that people with large collections are not about to replace hundreds or thousands of movies at full price. It simply isn't going to happen. A smallish upgrade fee, however, could be very attractive. The studios would gain revenue that they otherwise wouldn't get. I know I'm not going to replace my 1200+ HDX movies at $30/ea, but an upgrade fee of $2/title would yield almost $2500 in revenue for basically updating a flag in a database. That's essentially free money.

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                  #53
                  Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

                  Originally posted by Scott Curtis View Post
                  The reason I think it makes good business sense to provide an upgrade path is that people with large collections are not about to replace hundreds or thousands of movies at full price. It simply isn't going to happen. A smallish upgrade fee, however, could be very attractive. The studios would gain revenue that they otherwise wouldn't get. I know I'm not going to replace my 1200+ HDX movies at $30/ea, but an upgrade fee of $2/title would yield almost $2500 in revenue for basically updating a flag in a database. That's essentially free money.
                  As someone that loves technology and has managed retail and for consumer electronic manufacturer's over 3 decades and being responsible for over $3B in product (hardware, software, and consumables) sales annually that really not that way.

                  Even personally I went from dozens of cassettes to hundreds of CD's to tens of thousands of MP3 albums (legal).

                  Likewise from dozens of VHS to hundreds of a few hundred DVDs, thousands of Blurays and now many thousands of Vudu/UV.

                  Besides a couple hundred D2D on Vudu everything was a repurchase.

                  Those $2 upgrades don't really pocket the studio. Also the same reason there are now caps. It's done as a loss leader to get people entrenched in the ecosystem.

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                    #54
                    Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

                    2.00 is too low. 5 to 7 would be a price many people would pay to upgrade from HD to UHD.

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                      #55
                      Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

                      Originally posted by jeremymc7 View Post
                      As someone that loves technically and has managed retail and for consumer electronic manuacters over 3 decades and being responsible for over $3B in product (hardware, software, and consumables) sales annualy that really not that way.

                      Even personally I went from dozens of casssetes to hundreds of CD's to tens of thousands of MP3 albums (legal).

                      Likewise from dozens of VHS to hundreds of a few hundred DVDs, thousands of Blurays and now many thousands of Vudu/UV.

                      Besides a couple hundred D2D on Vudu everything was a repurchase.

                      Those $2 upgrades don't really pocket the studio. Also the same reason there are now caps. It's done as a loss leader to get people entrenched in the ecosystem.

                      While I responded earlier in the thread about about digital copies being cross-compatible through both current HDX and future UHD hardware whereas the "old system" of DVDs, VHS, CDs, and so on, aren't generally compatible in future hardware versions. The other thing I just thought of that's different between the "old system" of physical copies vs. digital copies is that digital copies don't wear out.

                      While I don't know the actual hard numbers, if you watch a VHS or DVD, say, 5000 times in a row, that'll wear out the physical copy and you need to buy a new copy of the movie. With a digital copy, it "doesn't wear out". While the "physical copy" on a hard drive somewhere would likely wear out, they just swap in a new hard drive or whatever the streaming provider uses. You, the viewer, don't have to do anything to get access to that "new" "physical copy". It's automatically available to you.

                      Basically, we're rapidly reaching the point where people aren't willing to pay full price just for additional access to a digital file they already had access to at a lower resolution. As others have said in this thread, it's just a "access flag" saying who has access to what in that file that's changed. I don't know many who are wanting to and willing to just drop $30 to "change the access flag". Please note, that I'm not applying that to the initial purchase of the digital copy, that should be at full price.

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                        #56
                        Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

                        While it's true that VHS degrades after about 7 years, it's not true with disc based media if manufactured properly. If you take care of your discs DVD's can last 20 years. They would still look the same today as they did when you bought them.

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                          #57
                          Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

                          Originally posted by echopulse View Post
                          While it's true that VHS degrades after about 7 years, it's not true with disc based media if manufactured properly. If you take care of your discs DVD's can last 20 years. They would still look the same today as they did when you bought them.

                          Apple announced they are upgrading people to 4k HDR copies automatically with new Apple TV.... C'mon vudu

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                            #58
                            Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

                            Originally posted by satinkzo View Post
                            Apple announced they are upgrading people to 4k HDR copies automatically with new Apple TV.... C'mon vudu
                            That was the biggest selling point for me and made me forgive the high price tag.

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                              #59
                              Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

                              Originally posted by satinkzo View Post
                              Apple announced they are upgrading people to 4k HDR copies automatically with new Apple TV.... C'mon vudu
                              This is HUGE. There also won't be a upcharge for buying a movie in 4k over HD. Vudu has some work to do now...

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                                #60
                                Re: Upgrade from HDX to UHD

                                Originally posted by fargus View Post
                                This is HUGE. There also won't be a upcharge for buying a movie in 4k over HD. Vudu has some work to do now...
                                I'm curious if this will work with bluray itunes codes or just from the itunes store.

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