I am missing 9 movies from Movies Anywhere that I curently own UV licenses for and which show up at VUDU. They are:
8 Mile (2002)
Another Earth (2011)
CJ7 (2008)
Cyrus (2010)
Love Actually (2003)
My Best Friend's Wedding (1997)
Sea of Love (1989)
Wag The Dog (1998)
Westworld (1973)
However, these 9 movies had duplicate UV licenses, which evidently UV started deleting back in May 2019 as part of some cleanup.
These "deletions" sent "REFUNDS" from UV to VUDU. VUDU, without verifying that I still owned the movie even so, passed those refunds to MA.
Here's the history of one such title, WAG THE DOG
I LINK VUDU TO MA IN MID-OCTOBER 2017 (like many of us did)
10-15-2017 -- VUDU sends RECORD to MA, with a license date of 01-01-1970 (RECORD #1).
This 01-01-1970 UV license date is wrong. All VUDU records sent to MA were dated 01-01-1970 at first. They failed to pass along the actual UV license date.
11-09-2017 -- VUDU sends REFUND to MA (to delete the record with the 01-01-1970 license date problem). (REFUND #1)
11-09-2017 -- VUDU sends "new" RECORD to MA, which now shows proper UV license date of 01-15-2014. (RECORD #2)
Here's the weird bit and the issue. UV, as part of its July 31, 2019 shutting down process, begins deleting duplicate licenses from client lockers in May 22 and 23, 2019.
I had two licenses for this title, so UV deleted one (you only "need" one, right?). The title still shows as VUDU tho - because ... I still have one good UV license. However ... VUDU passes along this second UV "refund" (from the deleted duplicate license) to MA.
05-23-2019 -- VUDU sends "new" REFUND to MA. (REFUND #2)
MA deletes the title because it now sees TWO RECORDS, and TWO REFUNDS from VUDU. It thinks I don't own that title anymore. MA has no way to understand that the deletion of a duplicate UV license leaves a perfectly good UV license behind. It only sees one movie coming to it from VUDU. When it see's the new "refund" ... it says "bye-bye movie"
I HAVE NOT DISCONNECTED UV FROM VUDU. THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE. I DID NOTHING TO CAUSE THIS. THE ISSUE IS UV DECIDING ON ITS OWN TO DELETE A DUPLICATE LICENSE, AND VUDU PASSING ALONG THAT REFUND TO MA WITHOUT SEEING IF I STILL HAD A GOOD (POSITIVE) NUMBER OF UV LICENSES FOR A TITLE.
I only lost 9 movie at MA. This has caused some to lose hundreds of movies at MA (there is a whole thread about it). A good friend is missing 160 titles at MA and also has 50 downgrades from HD to SD at MA because of this.
8 Mile (2002)
Another Earth (2011)
CJ7 (2008)
Cyrus (2010)
Love Actually (2003)
My Best Friend's Wedding (1997)
Sea of Love (1989)
Wag The Dog (1998)
Westworld (1973)
However, these 9 movies had duplicate UV licenses, which evidently UV started deleting back in May 2019 as part of some cleanup.
These "deletions" sent "REFUNDS" from UV to VUDU. VUDU, without verifying that I still owned the movie even so, passed those refunds to MA.
Here's the history of one such title, WAG THE DOG
I LINK VUDU TO MA IN MID-OCTOBER 2017 (like many of us did)
10-15-2017 -- VUDU sends RECORD to MA, with a license date of 01-01-1970 (RECORD #1).
This 01-01-1970 UV license date is wrong. All VUDU records sent to MA were dated 01-01-1970 at first. They failed to pass along the actual UV license date.
11-09-2017 -- VUDU sends REFUND to MA (to delete the record with the 01-01-1970 license date problem). (REFUND #1)
11-09-2017 -- VUDU sends "new" RECORD to MA, which now shows proper UV license date of 01-15-2014. (RECORD #2)
Here's the weird bit and the issue. UV, as part of its July 31, 2019 shutting down process, begins deleting duplicate licenses from client lockers in May 22 and 23, 2019.
I had two licenses for this title, so UV deleted one (you only "need" one, right?). The title still shows as VUDU tho - because ... I still have one good UV license. However ... VUDU passes along this second UV "refund" (from the deleted duplicate license) to MA.
05-23-2019 -- VUDU sends "new" REFUND to MA. (REFUND #2)
MA deletes the title because it now sees TWO RECORDS, and TWO REFUNDS from VUDU. It thinks I don't own that title anymore. MA has no way to understand that the deletion of a duplicate UV license leaves a perfectly good UV license behind. It only sees one movie coming to it from VUDU. When it see's the new "refund" ... it says "bye-bye movie"
I HAVE NOT DISCONNECTED UV FROM VUDU. THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE. I DID NOTHING TO CAUSE THIS. THE ISSUE IS UV DECIDING ON ITS OWN TO DELETE A DUPLICATE LICENSE, AND VUDU PASSING ALONG THAT REFUND TO MA WITHOUT SEEING IF I STILL HAD A GOOD (POSITIVE) NUMBER OF UV LICENSES FOR A TITLE.
I only lost 9 movie at MA. This has caused some to lose hundreds of movies at MA (there is a whole thread about it). A good friend is missing 160 titles at MA and also has 50 downgrades from HD to SD at MA because of this.
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