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  • Dive86
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    Re: Cinemanow dead??

    Question would be all my uv Vudu movie would transfer but some of my non uv Vudu purchases will not right ?

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  • quackman
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    This potentially sounds very good!

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  • Cranston37
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    Originally posted by echopulse View Post
    There are a few studios that haven't signed on yet, though, including Lionsgate, Paramount, and MGM.
    My understanding of it (and I could be wrong) is that it isn't that they haven't signed on yet, it's that they haven't done the backend work to get their titles into the new locker system...

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  • echopulse
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    Originally posted by gingerlover View Post
    They are not dropping UV. From what I have read from Zu's house of date posts on another forum they will just be a different ECO system. All the major studios other than paramount are already signed up and they have their initial offering list floating around. Basically it uses the keychest technology that DMA uses and they are confident that they would grandfather in movies already owned on sites that support that new locker as well as UV. I don't know what retailers would be involved, but I would assume Vudu is one as someone said they came across a test page with that icon on a movie as well as UV. According to him there was a discussion of UV joining it and combining, but the talks broke down. Doesn't mean it won't happen in the future that they join back up, but it still seems the studious, including Disney are finally starting to agree on things, and now its up to the retailers to offer their support for it besides Vudu. I, personally from what I read, feel like this is a step closer to having everything in one place and able to watch it across any platform if the retailers will get on board whether its named UV or something else. Personally I think not grandfathering owned movies into the eco system would kill it out of the gate and since its not a storefront I think they would transfer.

    It's based on KeyChest, so all the Keychest retailers, (iTunes, Google Play, Vudu, Amazon Video, Microsoft Video Store) will be able to connect to it. FandangoNow is supposed to be added soon. There are a few studios that haven't signed on yet, though, including Lionsgate, Paramount, and MGM.

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  • gingerlover
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    Originally posted by IPhoneUser View Post
    Why would any UV Retailer drop UV? Most of the UV movies I purchased are from Vudu's D2D feature. There will be no way to win back those customers if they don't allow or make it too difficult for them to watch content they purchased. Furthermore, none of those defunct sites will be able to provide the user compensation for those titles not purchased from Vudu. Any new format will just be viewed with even more skepticism and customers will just settle on obtaining their content illegally. Any future eco system that doesn't support UV is a non starter. Could they do away with UV redemptions or support for D2D? Perhaps, but having them apply this retroactively to our collections would be insane.

    The studios really need to get their act together and treat their most loyal customers with respect. Otherwise, they will have no business selling movies digitally.
    They are not dropping UV. From what I have read from Zu's house of date posts on another forum they will just be a different ECO system. All the major studios other than paramount are already signed up and they have their initial offering list floating around. Basically it uses the keychest technology that DMA uses and they are confident that they would grandfather in movies already owned on sites that support that new locker as well as UV. I don't know what retailers would be involved, but I would assume Vudu is one as someone said they came across a test page with that icon on a movie as well as UV. According to him there was a discussion of UV joining it and combining, but the talks broke down. Doesn't mean it won't happen in the future that they join back up, but it still seems the studious, including Disney are finally starting to agree on things, and now its up to the retailers to offer their support for it besides Vudu. I, personally from what I read, feel like this is a step closer to having everything in one place and able to watch it across any platform if the retailers will get on board whether its named UV or something else. Personally I think not grandfathering owned movies into the eco system would kill it out of the gate and since its not a storefront I think they would transfer.

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  • qazzaq
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    Originally posted by tsken02 View Post
    The end of UV support is on their help desk site too:
    https://cinemanow.zendesk.com/hc/en-us

    myuv.com doesn't list CinemaNow anymore. In fact, there are very few UV providers left aside from the studios. Vudu, Kaleidescape and Verizon are about it.
    I don't see anything on their help desk site other than a year old message about Relativity Media...

    The fact they have been removed from myuv says everything though

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  • IPhoneUser
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    Originally posted by gingerlover View Post
    I don't know when, but another format will be launching soon according to rumors based on the same locker system as DMA. Most studios will be contributing to it as well, but talks of them and UV working together broke down. heres to hoping that if VUDU sells for that other locker we will get all of our movies ported to it as well.

    On a side note about Cinemanow I refused to use them after my tv shows ported there. Basically they were not UV when purchased, but later became UV. They would never grant me the rights and told me I had to repurchase everything to get the UV rights.
    Why would any UV Retailer drop UV? Most of the UV movies I purchased are from Vudu's D2D feature. There will be no way to win back those customers if they don't allow or make it too difficult for them to watch content they purchased. Furthermore, none of those defunct sites will be able to provide the user compensation for those titles not purchased from Vudu. Any new format will just be viewed with even more skepticism and customers will just settle on obtaining their content illegally. Any future eco system that doesn't support UV is a non starter. Could they do away with UV redemptions or support for D2D? Perhaps, but having them apply this retroactively to our collections would be insane.

    The studios really need to get their act together and treat their most loyal customers with respect. Otherwise, they will have no business selling movies digitally.

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  • gingerlover
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    I don't know when, but another format will be launching soon according to rumors based on the same locker system as DMA. Most studios will be contributing to it as well, but talks of them and UV working together broke down. heres to hoping that if VUDU sells for that other locker we will get all of our movies ported to it as well.

    On a side note about Cinemanow I refused to use them after my tv shows ported there. Basically they were not UV when purchased, but later became UV. They would never grant me the rights and told me I had to repurchase everything to get the UV rights.

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  • Wasteland
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    Originally posted by tsken02 View Post
    The end of UV support is on their help desk site too:
    https://cinemanow.zendesk.com/hc/en-us

    myuv.com doesn't list CinemaNow anymore. In fact, there are very few UV providers left aside from the studios. Vudu, Kaleidescape and Verizon are about it.

    You'd think the studios would be concerned, but there's not much publicity on new initiatives or marketing for UV. Maybe they're thinking 4K blu-ray solved all of their problems? I'm not paying that much for any movie!

    Target and Best Buy are no longer in the game. I'm a little concerned about how much I've invested in movies I may not be able to watch if Walmart loses interest.
    I don't see Walmart losing interest. They have invested too much into Vudu and getting exclusives for Walmart to sale. If anything, I see Vudu and iTunes being the two left standing. Maybe something will come one day to allow us to link our movies across both platforms? Similar to UV? We can wish.

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  • tsken02
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    The end of UV support is on their help desk site too:
    https://cinemanow.zendesk.com/hc/en-us

    myuv.com doesn't list CinemaNow anymore. In fact, there are very few UV providers left aside from the studios. Vudu, Kaleidescape and Verizon are about it.

    You'd think the studios would be concerned, but there's not much publicity on new initiatives or marketing for UV. Maybe they're thinking 4K blu-ray solved all of their problems? I'm not paying that much for any movie!

    Target and Best Buy are no longer in the game. I'm a little concerned about how much I've invested in movies I may not be able to watch if Walmart loses interest.

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  • jwilliamsgarcia
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    I must have gotten caught mid-stream in CinemaNow's transition because they were selling UV titles without UV linkage or affiliation on 7/18.
    The UV title I purchased from CinemaNow never actually ported to my UV locker, and couldn't be accessed via Vudu (or any other UV provider). When I realized the CinemaNow/UV linkage was broken and saw they had been removed from the UV provider list, I first contacted UV support. Puzzled! After UV responded that CinemaNow was no longer UV affiliated, I contacted CinemaNow, who promptly refunded the purchase and deleted the title from my CinemaNow account with apologies, but definitely gave the impression (similar to quackman) that they were experiencing a "temporary system outage". Time will tell, I guess.


    Originally posted by quackman View Post
    Yeah, the only movies I purchased there were UV. So, I think those should remain in my Vudu library, right? They are all still there now. It is interesting, though, that the two times I contacted support, they always came back with a quick direct response indicating things were fine and the site will be up soon.

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  • Grey Ghost
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    Originally posted by danglin709 View Post
    I saw somewhere that Cinema now and Fandango now are or were owned by the same company maybe that has something to do with it
    They have different owners. Cinemanow is owned by Filmon, a UK company.

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  • danglin709
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    Originally posted by quackman View Post
    Yeah, the only movies I purchased there were UV. So, I think those should remain in my Vudu library, right? They are all still there now. It is interesting, though, that the two times I contacted support, they always came back with a quick direct response indicating things were fine and the site will be up soon.
    I saw somewhere that Cinema now and Fandango now are or were owned by the same company maybe that has something to do with it

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  • quackman
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    Re: Cinemanow dead??

    Yeah, the only movies I purchased there were UV. So, I think those should remain in my Vudu library, right? They are all still there now. It is interesting, though, that the two times I contacted support, they always came back with a quick direct response indicating things were fine and the site will be up soon.

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  • Wasteland
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    I feel like they are done. Does anyone actually buy stuff on their site? I understand if a title is UV and cheaper there, but non-UV titles? I just couldn't. I think I have two titles that were bought there, and luckily they were both UV and transferred to my UV library, so they are in my Vudu.

    They even removed the CinemaNow option in the "Linked Services". I think the leaders are Vudu, FandangoNow and iTunes, and maybe Amazon, but I don't see Amazon going anywhere, since they have Prime and are working on their live TV service.

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