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    disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

    If the discs aren't stamped.. is there some other unique ID on the disc it checks? Why would the studios allow this? Could it be they will be getting new revenue everytime they are converted even if they are 'borrowed' from a friend?
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    Re: disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

    Originally posted by tri0xinn View Post
    If the discs aren't stamped.. is there some other unique ID on the disc it checks? Why would the studios allow this? Could it be they will be getting new revenue everytime they are converted even if they are 'borrowed' from a friend?
    Can be seen as a loss if this keeps friend from buying disc and then D2Ding. But that assumes that they would buy it anyway from a retailer. Better a $2-$5 payment from all the friends your lend your disc to (and you) than the friends going to pirate it. Or if the friends get it used from eBay, Amazon, MovieStop, etc., the studios get nothing for that too. I think studios have accepted this as a way to go to get more people using D2D and therefore more people using Ultraviolet which should help them in the long run.

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      Re: disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

      I think in a world with the reality of torrents, broken drm, writable discs and amazon/ebay most studios are realizing that it's really a moot point. If they give people a legal way to convert their media at competitive cost, that offers convenience, most people will choose the legal option.

      That, or maybe for them this is just another planned obsolescence (I have trust issues).

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        Re: disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

        Originally posted by tri0xinn View Post
        Why would the studios allow this?
        Who cares?

        Seriously, if Vudu and other companies find it profitable to offer this service, let them! Don't look a gift horse in the mouth!!

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          Re: disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

          Originally posted by tri0xinn View Post
          If the discs aren't stamped.. is there some other unique ID on the disc it checks? Why would the studios allow this? Could it be they will be getting new revenue everytime they are converted even if they are 'borrowed' from a friend?
          With "D2D Home" from CinemanNow and coming from VUDU allowing you to add movies to your UV Locker from your PC at home, or work, etc. the disc will never be stamped or marked.

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            Re: disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

            Originally posted by E55KEV View Post
            With "D2D Home" from CinemanNow and coming from VUDU allowing you to add movies to your UV Locker from your PC at home, or work, etc. the disc will never be stamped or marked.
            No. There is no unique identifier or serial number encoded on the disc, only a code that indicates what the movie is.

            Most Walmarts do not even stamp your discs. I have done about 300 disks and none have been stamped.

            There really is no point to it anyway.

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              Re: disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

              Originally posted by tfisher View Post
              No. There is no unique identifier or serial number encoded on the disc, only a code that indicates what the movie is.

              Most Walmarts do not even stamp your discs. I have done about 300 disks and none have been stamped.

              There really is no point to it anyway.
              That's what I said:

              Originally posted by E55KEV View Post
              With "D2D Home" ... the disc will never be stamped or marked.

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                Re: disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

                Now it's been said twice

                Actually, I did misread your post because I was trying to read and talk on the phone at the same time (which is never a good idea). I thought you asked a question "will discs ever be stamped or marked". Sorry.

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                  Re: disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

                  Originally posted by tfisher View Post
                  Most Walmarts do not even stamp your discs. I have done about 300 disks and none have been stamped.
                  alot of that has to do with the fact the stamper used to id'd the discs has dried out and either the stores dont reorder or their orders are not being fulfilled.

                  its for the better as now no longer do I/you dont have to fight with/ yell at "edna" or "walter" because they try to stamp the read side of the disc as not to ruin the nice art work.

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                    Re: disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

                    Originally posted by tfisher View Post
                    No. There is no unique identifier or serial number encoded on the disc, only a code that indicates what the movie is.
                    When a DVD disc is read by the software, it calculates an ID based on some files on the disc. If you have disc decryption software running and enabled when you insert a disc, or you are mounting a backup ISO or insert a burned copy, you'll actually get a different ID, because the contents of the disc is actually different than the original, unaltered disc. Because of this, a backup copy of any kind could be unrecognized, or recognized as a totally different movie.

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                      Re: disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

                      That's not at all what tfisher was talking about.

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                        Re: disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

                        when anyone goes to walmart do you actually bring your discs in store? When I went there for the first time I brought 5 movies and the guy said I'm doing nothing with those and that he just wanted my printout from online.... Is anyone else getting this answer from asscociates and has anybody got them stamped? just checking cause this could be a good thing....Hmmmm

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                          Re: disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

                          Originally posted by Oh Yeah View Post
                          when anyone goes to walmart do you actually bring your discs in store? When I went there for the first time I brought 5 movies and the guy said I'm doing nothing with those and that he just wanted my printout from online.... Is anyone else getting this answer from asscociates and has anybody got them stamped? just checking cause this could be a good thing....Hmmmm
                          You're supposed to bring the movies so they can verify ownership (or at least actually in your possession). Otherwise, a person could get any D2D movie for HDX for $2 if they say they have the blu-ray and the clerk doesn't check. This allows people to get an awful lots of movies they own in UV locker for real cheap). It seems not many places actually stamp them, but the place I goes to does.

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                            Re: disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

                            Originally posted by jeffpn View Post
                            That's not at all what tfisher was talking about.
                            If you mean me, I was clarifying that there is nothing on the disc itself that is an actual code or ID that identifies the disc, it's entirely generated on demand by a standard algorithm...

                            In-store service is subject to a lot more error and cheating of the system, than simply reading the discs. So while a single disc could be re-used by multiple people with the in-home service, at least there is some computerized system that makes the process simpler and far less error prone and removes stupid humans from the equation.

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                              Re: disc to digital... I don't get it.. are the discs unique?

                              Originally posted by lostinva View Post
                              If you mean me, I was clarifying that there is nothing on the disc itself that is an actual code or ID that identifies the disc, it's entirely generated on demand by a standard algorithm...
                              I can see that...sort of like a digital signature...sort of like the way a check digit or is calculating or a MD5 hash calculation. That would also explain how different pressings of the same movie wouldn't be recongnized because the DVD menu is often different and that would change the underlying data which would alter the digital signature.

                              But the point I was making earlier is that if you and I both buy the same movie they would each contain the same digital signature.

                              Does this make sense?

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