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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Originally posted by tsken02 View Post
    I looked for Tomb Raider, but it was out of stock at two BB stores I frequent. It's still on my list for a Blu-ray upgrade.

    There are three versions of Salt. The Deluxe Blu-ray should have them all. The beginning is a little harsh, so be warned.
    FYI, there are two Tomb Raider films. There is the original in 2001, and then the Cradle of Life in 2003. The first one made its money back. The sequel did not.

    As for hot female leads, Halle Berry in Catwoman - 2004 has to be at the top of the list. That movie deserved a sequel, but sadly, it did not make its money back either. OMG, she was so hot in it. Damn!!! Plus, she just had command of the role.

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  • RobertG
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    Originally posted by craiggers88 View Post
    "Hey Vudu and UV: we are beating the system by owning the movies for 1 day, converting it, and reselling it".

    I am going to facepalm again... why would you boast about "I sell them to do more D2D!"? That is a slap in Vudu's face telling them right out front that you are manipulating the system.

    Mine are still in the many boxes out in my shed because I know that idiots like these are going to ruin it for everyone. I don't want to know how they will make us re-verify the movies we have purchased, but I know that it will come soon enough with idiots like these. When that happens, I will laugh my *** off.

    You gain the digital right for movies you personally own

    You are basically saying that ROMS are legal for SNES games that you had as a kid, but no longer own. Because you temporarily "owned" it, does not give you the right to claim a digital copy (at such a discounted price) indefinitely.

    People really need to smarten up. Seriously guys, come on.


    EVEN IF YOU DO SELL IT, WHY BRING IT UP? YOU ARE ONLY BRINGING ATTENTION TO YOURSELF AND GOING TO MAKE A TERRIBLE NEW FEATURE THAT EVERYONE WILL HATE YOU FOR.

    So again, why?


    "Ha ha, I sell them after paying $2 to convert it compared to $9.99! I just saved $8! Now to sell this (probably not even stamped) disc, and buy more! Derp!"

    I am sure Vudu LOVES hearing that, ESPECIALLY on THEIR OWN forum! *claps hands*

    Whoa!! Calm down buddy! Please let me clarify, the only ones that I'm selling are the DVD's, which I have paid the $5 to upgrade, which is very few maybe 20 movies. The majority of my collection is bluray, which I pay the $2 and then throw in a box in my attic. Not getting rid of my blurays as I spent way to much money on them. But I have no need to keep the few DVD's that I've already paid to upgrade. And Wal-Mart has stamped every single one of them. I don't borrow my neighbors movies and convert them. I have kept every one of my digital receipts from vudu.

    And I doubt vudu would go as far as removing the titles from my account or anyone else's for that matter. God forbid somebody broke into your house and stole all of your movies!!! You no longer would own the physical copy so I guess vudu would have to remove all your movies right.......at least that is your logic, since you would no longer would own the physical movie... I think some people just need to calm down a little.

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  • tsken02
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    I looked for Tomb Raider, but it was out of stock at two BB stores I frequent. It's still on my list for a Blu-ray upgrade.

    There are three versions of Salt. The Deluxe Blu-ray should have them all. The beginning is a little harsh, so be warned.

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Originally posted by tsken02 View Post
    I'm still buying Blu-ray when I can get them at discount. I've looked at the pricing on VUDU, and it's far cheaper to buy the media and go D2D than it is to just buy the digital copy.

    For example, Patriot Games is $18 on VUDU. The Blu-Ray is $10 on Amazon this week.

    I picked up Blu-ray copies of Clear and Present Danger, Patriot Games, Sum of All Fears, and Salt this week. I used gift cards from points to buy them, so I only paid for the D2D. Since I don't have a Blu-ray drive, I need to make the trek to the local WM, but you can't beat the price. I get lots of points from my travel that I can use on Amazon or BB.

    I noticed the same thing. I have decided that the $2.00-$3.00 I can save, doing this is not worth the hassle. Some others may feel differently, but for me it is a lot of time/work to save only a few dollars. Of course if you get the media for free via CC points, that is a different equation.

    P.S.:
    Salt looks like a good movie. I added it to my Wishlist. Angelina Jolie makes my toes curl. I am taking in a Lara Croft title for D2D on Friday.

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  • tsken02
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    I'm still buying Blu-ray when I can get them at discount. I've looked at the pricing on VUDU, and it's far cheaper to buy the media and go D2D than it is to just buy the digital copy.

    For example, Patriot Games is $18 on VUDU. The Blu-Ray is $10 on Amazon this week.

    I picked up Blu-ray copies of Clear and Present Danger, Patriot Games, Sum of All Fears, and Salt this week. I used gift cards from points to buy them, so I only paid for the D2D. Since I don't have a Blu-ray drive, I need to make the trek to the local WM, but you can't beat the price. I get lots of points from my travel that I can use on Amazon or BB.

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    craiggers88,

    Hello. Below is the VUDU Terms of Service concerning D2D.

    "You may have the opportunity to convert your physical Blu-ray and DVD discs into electronic copies that may be stored and viewed through the VUDU services via the Disc to Digital program. The Disc to Digital program is only available for physical Blu-ray and DVD titles that have been legitimately purchased and are presently owned by you. VUDU reserves the right to refuse conversion of a title, or to limit or cancel your access to a previously converted title, if VUDU reasonably believes the title does not meet, or no longer meets, the purchase and ownership criteria set forth in this paragraph."


    Thank you for bringing this clause to our attention. To be honest, I had never read it before. It is clear VUDU does expect customers to maintain ownership of the physical media they convert via the D2D program.

    I can say from professional experience, organizations like the RIAA and MPAA take copyright infringement breaches with a level of seriousness and fervor consumers would most likely be surprised to have to recon with. I work for a large ISP and do know the topic is no small matter for the entertainment industry.

    -Walter

    P.S.:
    I am looking forward to the day when the Star Wars domino will fall along with all other's that have a Disney logo on their case. Looking through my collection the other day, easily 3/4th of the media in my boxes of children's titles have that damn Disney DVD logo.

    Having the shelf space freed up in the house and instead being able to have my collection readily available from a remote is a service I gladly pay the low conversion fee for. Plus, I have the option of upgrading my DVD titles to 1080p for an additional $3.00. This is a great deal in my estimation.

    If I understand correctly, UltraViolet is facilitating a low D2D price to encourage a fast acceptance of the technology. We as early adopters are able to take advantage of such a great offer.

    It is like when an new store opens and has a dramatic sale to attract customers to come in and look around.

    To me, $2.00 for a lateral conversion and $5.00 for an upgraded conversion seems either at cost or subsidized to some extent. Nothing like the raking over the coals routinely done by the satellite and cable companies to their customers who may want to watch a title 3 weeks before it is available on home media by charging them $20.00 to watch it once. I don't know how cable and satellite executives sleep at night charging so much money for their pay-per-view services.

    Also, I too have not bought "Packaged Media" in many moons and doubt I ever will again. For me, the clock stopped in about 2010 for physical media purchases.

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  • craiggers88
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    I would read the small... itty bitty fine print in that thingy called the Terms of Service

    http://www.vudu.com/termsofservice.htm

    It's not just there collecting dust you know...

    "
    Disc to Digital:

    You may have the opportunity to covert your physical Blu-ray? and DVD discs into electronic copies that may be stored and viewed through the VUDU Service via the Disc to Digital program. The Disc to Digital program is only available for physical Blu-ray? and DVD titles that have been legitimately purchased and are presently owned by you. VUDU reserves the right to refuse conversion of a title, or to limit or cancel your access to a previously converted title, if VUDU reasonably believes the title does not meet, or no longer meets, the purchase and ownership criteria set forth in this paragraph.
    "

    I see we already have some rule breakers. I hope your Forum information doesn't match your Vudu information... Why would Vudu Care? They can easily say "thank you for making our job easier" on weeding out those abusing the system, but we should honor the ToS that we signed up to. "VUDU reserves the right to limit or cancel your access to a previously converted title if VUDU has reasonable believe that you no longer own said media."











    Going back to the topic at hand, is "DVD" counting for "Physical Media" i.e. Bluray + DVD, or just Bluray? I've honestly stopped buying new and used DVD's (unless it's something I cannot pass up since there is no Bluray for it yet [Lemony Snickets])

    I am still a sucker for physical media, but I love the "freeness" of having my (83%) movie collection available to be taken with me anywhere. I want to unpack my Bond Movies and upload them... aarrrrrgggggghhhhhh!! MGM, join UV dang it!

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  • echopulse
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    Why does vudu care? They still get their cut. The studio's still get their cut. It's a lot better than downloading it from a torrent. That is what UV was designed for. To take the place of piracy.

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  • craiggers88
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  • RobertG
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    Originally posted by Walter-S_North_Carolina View Post
    I am curious. What do you do with your physical media (BluRay or DVD) after it gets converted via D2D onto Vudu?

    I keep mine in boxes in the garage.

    I sell mine on ebay. (Only the ones that I have uprgraded from SD to HDX, about 20) I then use the funds to purchase more movies to convert D2D It's like a never ending cycle. It's worked out great so far, 535 movies and counting.

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Originally posted by OSUGrad2X View Post
    I also keep mine in a closet but yesterday i was trying to watch V for Vendetta but it kept stumbling on my HTPC. I couldnt figure it out since i NEVER had a problem before playing my BD mkv rips for the past 3yrs. One thing was interesting that my CPU was running at 80% during playback and my PowereDVD has reached EOL. So i said forget it and loaded up Vudu. Watched 10min then i started getting network error over and over. So i said hey i'm gonna watch this movie! Then went to the closet opened the box and pulled the disc out and slided it in the PS3. After this, i'm sure i'm sticking with my discs.

    Natalie Portman is over the top HOT in the bedroom scene where she is dressed in a mini skirt and pony tails.

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  • OSUGrad2X
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    I also keep mine in a closet but yesterday i was trying to watch V for Vendetta but it kept stumbling on my HTPC. I couldnt figure it out since i NEVER had a problem before playing my BD mkv rips for the past 3yrs. One thing was interesting that my CPU was running at 80% during playback and my PowereDVD has reached EOL. So i said forget it and loaded up Vudu. Watched 10min then i started getting network error over and over. So i said hey i'm gonna watch this movie! Then went to the closet opened the box and pulled the disc out and slided it in the PS3. After this, i'm sure i'm sticking with my discs.

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  • lujan
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    Originally posted by Walter-S_North_Carolina View Post
    I am curious. What do you do with your physical media (BluRay or DVD) after it gets converted via D2D onto Vudu?

    I keep mine in boxes in the garage.
    I keep it in a closet just in case I need it in the future.

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Originally posted by echopulse View Post
    Interesting. I wonder how much of this total was for digital rentals, vs. digital sales, vs. subscription streaming services. It makes a difference.

    I give my DVD's away. Don't need them anymore. I keep the blu's though.

    The $5.1 billion number also includes every time someone pays $20.00 to pay-per-view on DirecTV for a movie. That is considered VoD.

    These are becoming known as electronic "sell-through" services and are inclusive of VoD (Vudu & iTunes), SVoD (NetFlix & Amazon Prime), and the cable/satellite pay-per-view. All are un-packaged media and are getting lumped together for aggregate forcasting. The numbers of them broken apart are most likely available from the DEG (Digital Entertainment Group), but the breakout was not mentioned in the article.

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  • echopulse
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    Interesting. I wonder how much of this total was for digital rentals, vs. digital sales, vs. subscription streaming services. It makes a difference.

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