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  • Gnatevil
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    Originally posted by Fofer View Post
    Thanks for the answer, though. I was wondering the same as I am about to purchase Bond 50: The Complete 22 Film Collection on Blu-ray. It's a Lightning Deal on Amazon now for $109. I did check Vudu's "Disc to Digital" page first though, and none of the 22 (!) titles appear to be eligible currently for conversion.
    They aren't and probably won't be for a while. No one really knows what is going on with MGM titles. I'm hoping they get then on the d2d wagon so I can convert mine. Same goes for Disney.

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  • Fofer
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    Originally posted by Walter-S_North_Carolina View Post
    MGM is no longer producing movies, and as such are not apart of this thread.

    The topic concerning MGM is if their historical library of titles will be sold off to a studio (Sony and Disney have both been mentioned), or if they will be able to ever join DECE and release their historical titles to the D2D program. However, neither of those are topics for this thread, so I left them off the table.
    Thanks for the answer, though. I was wondering the same as I am about to purchase Bond 50: The Complete 22 Film Collection on Blu-ray. It's a Lightning Deal on Amazon now for $109. I did check Vudu's "Disc to Digital" page first though, and none of the 22 (!) titles appear to be eligible currently for conversion.

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    ...updated with one additional example.

    MAJOR STUDIOS DIGITAL COPY METHOD US/CAN MARKET SHARE (2012) Link to Example



    Disney Studios    		 DigitalCopy+

    Choice of one of the below
    EST providers;
    1) Amazon
    2) iTunes
    3) Vudu


    14.3%
    1. Slip Cover
    2. Digital Copy Insert
    3. Redemption Page
    4. Code Accepted
    5. Select a Provider
    6. Enter Vudu Login...
    7. Movie in Vudu Library
    Sony Pictures/Columbia UltraViolet Only 17.0% CLICK HERE Last Ex2

    Warner Brothers
    Ultraviolet Only
    15.4%    		 CLICK HERE Beautiful Creatures
    CLICK HERE Jack tGS
    CLICK HERE Cloud Atlas
    20th Century Fox Ultraviolet Only 10.6% CLICK HERE Killing Lincoln
    Paramount Ultraviolet & iTunes 8.5%
    Lionsgate Ultraviolet & iTunes ~7.5% (near-major) CLICK HERE Snitch
    Universal Ultraviolet & iTunes 13.6%
    MINOR STUDIOS DIGITAL COPY METHOD Link to Example
    Starz/Anchor Bay Ultraviolet Only CLICK HERE Dark Skies
    Relativity Media iTunes Only
    Arc Entertainment Vudu Only CLICK HERE Return to Nim's
    The Weinstein Company Ultraviolet & iTunes CLICK HERE Django
    CLICK HERE Escape FPE
    Echo Bridge/Miramax Vudu Only CLICK HERE
    Ketchup Entertainment Vudu Only CLICK HERE Dragon Pearl

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    Originally posted by huskerbear View Post
    Can we make this a sticky?

    I fear those are long odds, but if it would help, you have my vote too.

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  • huskerbear
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    Can we make this a sticky?

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    Several new examples added from a trip to WalMart today.


    MAJOR STUDIOS DIGITAL COPY METHOD US/CAN MARKET SHARE (2012) Link to Example



    Disney Studios    		 DigitalCopy+

    Choice of one of the below
    EST providers;
    1) Amazon
    2) iTunes
    3) Vudu


    14.3%
    1. Slip Cover
    2. Digital Copy Insert
    3. Redemption Page
    4. Code Accepted
    5. Select a Provider
    6. Enter Vudu Login...
    7. Movie in Vudu Library
    Sony Pictures/Columbia UltraViolet Only 17.0% CLICK HERE Last Ex2

    Warner Brothers
    Ultraviolet Only
    15.4%    		 CLICK HERE Beautiful Creatures
    CLICK HERE Jack tGS
    CLICK HERE Cloud Atlas
    20th Century Fox Ultraviolet Only 10.6% CLICK HERE Killing Lincoln
    Paramount Ultraviolet & iTunes 8.5%
    Lionsgate Ultraviolet & iTunes ~7.5% (near-major) CLICK HERE Snitch
    Universal Ultraviolet & iTunes 13.6%
    MINOR STUDIOS DIGITAL COPY METHOD Link to Example
    Starz/Anchor Bay Ultraviolet Only CLICK HERE Dark Skies
    Relativity Media iTunes Only
    Arc Entertainment Vudu Only CLICK HERE Return to Nim's
    The Weinstein Company Ultraviolet & iTunes CLICK HERE Django
    CLICK HERE Escape FPE
    Echo Bridge/Miramax Vudu Only CLICK HERE
    Ketchup Entertainment Vudu Only CLICK HERE Dragon Pearl

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    Reposting table to catharticly, glibly celebrate the demise of iTunes

    I mean, reposting table due to slight punctuation change.


    MAJOR STUDIOS DIGITAL COPY METHOD US/CAN MARKET SHARE (2012) Link to Example



    Disney Studios    		 DigitalCopy+

    Choice of one of the below
    EST providers;
    1) Amazon
    2) iTunes
    3) Vudu


    14.3%
    1. Slip Cover
    2. Digital Copy Insert
    3. Redemption Page
    4. Code Accepted
    5. Select a Provider
    6. Enter Vudu Login...
    7. Movie in Vudu Library
    Sony Pictures/Columbia UltraViolet Only 17.0%
    Warner Brothers Ultraviolet Only 15.4% CLICK HERE
    20th Century Fox Ultraviolet Only 10.6%
    Paramount Ultraviolet & iTunes 8.5%
    Lionsgate Ultraviolet & iTunes ~7.5% (near-major) CLICK HERE
    Universal Ultraviolet & iTunes 13.6%
    MINOR STUDIOS DIGITAL COPY METHOD Link to Example
    Starz/Anchor Bay Ultraviolet Only CLICK HERE
    Relativity Media iTunes Only
    Arc Entertainment Vudu Only CLICK HERE
    The Weinstein Company Ultraviolet & iTunes CLICK HERE
    Echo Bridge/Miramax Vudu Only CLICK HERE

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    Originally posted by Fofer View Post
    He's merely suggesting you *also* update the table in the first post of this thread -- since that's the post many will glance at first (or only.) Ergo, they won't see your updates.

    okay. I'll put effort into staying on the beam. I promise.

    I do think the description of me being a raving gloating fanboy'esk is sadly accurate. I will try to moderate the tone a bit and keep the gloating to myself.

    scouts honor. 4 real. really...

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    Originally posted by Fofer View Post
    He's merely suggesting you *also* update the table in the first post of this thread -- since that's the post many will glance at first (or only.) Ergo, they won't see your updates.

    good idea.

    brb....

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    Originally posted by Fofer View Post
    It's your gloating and cheerleading (and clear bias) that's making this thread come off like the ravings of a fanboy.

    I'm just suggesting you stick to the facts, with less emotion, to clearly share data with no prejudice. The way you're sharing your glee, it's as if iTunes is the dingo that ate your baby.

    I know. I am sooo broke. defective really.

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  • Fofer
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    Originally posted by Walter-S_North_Carolina View Post
    sadly, I enjoy reposting the table. I am having fun perfecting the forum syntax. Generating clutter or background noise is a form of raising cane I enjoy too.
    He's merely suggesting you *also* update the table in the first post of this thread -- since that's the post many will glance at first (or only.) Ergo, they won't see your updates.

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  • Fofer
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    Originally posted by Walter-S_North_Carolina View Post
    I am sorry you do not like this word. Sometimes reality is harsh.

    However, only a short time ago, the iTunes logo was dominant in this market. Now, even Disney who was their last holdout, does not print the iTunes logo on their packaged media any more. You are deluding yourself if you can not see the trend and think iTunes still holds a footing in the market.

    They have been driven inexorably, deliberately, and successfully from the digital copy market. The word demise is appropriate and correctly used for this description.
    It's not that I "do not like this word." It's not that I don't appreciate the "reality" of the marketplace. I am perfectly able to "see the trend" and I do not "think iTunes still holds a footing in the market." I'm a huge VUDU supporter, even though I have all Apple gear (including AppleTVs) in my home. I, too, am happy about their loss of exclusivity in this space!

    I don't know how to make myself clearer on this front.

    It's your gloating and cheerleading (and clear bias) that's making this thread come off like the ravings of a fanboy.
    I'm just suggesting you stick to the facts, with less emotion, to clearly share data with no prejudice. The way you're sharing your glee, it's as if iTunes is the dingo that ate your baby.

    Originally posted by Walter-S_North_Carolina View Post
    I am glad the metro-folks from Apple
    WTF?

    Facts, please. Your chart is wonderful and helpful, all this other commentary devalues it. We're all intelligent here and the chart speaks for itself, that's all.

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    Originally posted by echopulse View Post
    I was thinking the same thing. Instead of re-posting the table 15 times, just edit the first post it in your thread, and update it as necessary. And then remove it from all the other posts. It will reduce cluttter.

    sadly, I enjoy reposting the table. I am having fun perfecting the forum syntax. Generating clutter or background noise is a form of raising cane I enjoy too.

    sorry. I fear it is a character flaw.

    plus, I am glad to see iTunes depart and my reposting of the table is a form of cathartic jubilation at their downfall.

    Their attempt to corner the market HAS FAILED!!!! Yeah!!!!

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    Originally posted by Fofer View Post
    That's a good suggestion.

    The title of the thread also seems a bit... I dunno, heavy-handed and biased? Less agenda, more facts would be best.

    Sure, no major studio is offering iTunes' Digital Downloads exclusively any more, but they are still offered as options in the same places.

    I see this news as more like "The Solidification of UltraViolet/VUDU in the Digital Copy Market" and less about "iTunes' demise."

    Again, choice for the consumer is always best.

    There was no choice when iTunes was the sole option.

    I am glad the metro-folks from Apple are being driven from this new market by an angry mob with torches and pitchforkes.

    iTunes was cute for MP3 kinds of things, but no way would I marry myself to Apple with respect to my home entertainment collection.

    The dictionary definition of demise: "end of something: the end of something that used to exist, especially when it happens slowly and predictably"

    I am sorry you do not like this word. Sometimes reality is harsh.

    However, only a short time ago, the iTunes logo was dominant in this market. Now, even Disney who was their last holdout, does not print the iTunes logo on their packaged media any more. You are deluding yourself if you can not see the trend and think iTunes still holds a footing in the market.

    They have been driven inexorably, deliberately, and successfully from the digital copy market. The word demise is appropriate and correctly used for this description.

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  • Fofer
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    Re: The Demise of iTunes/Apple in the Digital Copy Market:

    That's a good suggestion.

    The title of the thread also seems a bit... I dunno, heavy-handed and biased? Less agenda, more facts would be best.

    Sure, no major studio is offering iTunes' Digital Downloads exclusively any more, but they are still offered as options in the same places.

    I see this news as more like "The Solidification of UltraViolet/VUDU in the Digital Copy Market" and less about "iTunes' demise."

    Again, choice for the consumer is always best.

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