Plans for "Disney Movies Anywhere" to link to Vudu?

[Walter-S_North_Carolina]

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I'm kind of confused how that site works.

what a mess. What genius dreamed up this as a solution to "Movies Anywhere" is beyond me.

I guess the the prospect of joining DECE was so frightening for them, they turned their imagineers loose who came back with this briar patch solution.

The idea of sinking a commitment into Apple Corp. for my movie play back, having to buy their set-top box for each TV to play back in my home, and agreeing to buy their mobile products for the rest of my natural life or loose access to my movie library is something they would like to think I am willing to do.

Sadly for them, I am not willing to make such a ridiculous commitment.

Let us also remember that DECE membership does not negate playback on iOS mobile devices. It is a turn key solution to digital copy playback, both mobile and in-home. Trying to go it alone just serves to fragment a market attempting to normalize.

[YankeeGator6]

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what a mess. What genius dreamed up this as a solution to "Movies Anywhere" is beyond me.

I guess the the prospect of joining DECE was so frightening for them, they turned their imagineers loose who came back with this briar patch solution.

The idea of sinking a commitment into Apple Corp. for my movie play back, having to buy their set-top box for each TV to play back in my home, and agreeing to buy their mobile products for the rest of my natural life or loose access to my movie library is something they would like to think I am willing to do.

Sadly for them, I am not willing to make such a ridiculous commitment.

Let us also remember that DECE membership does not negate playback on iOS mobile devices. It is a turn key solution to digital copy playback, both mobile and in-home. Trying to go it alone just serves to fragment a market attempting to normalize.

I absolutely agree. I don't mind Apple stuff as much as some people, but it drives me crazy how proprietary their crap is. Hopefully this crazy Disney idea at least is opened up to UV providers so that half of the mad pairing is taken out of the equation.

[olarmy96]

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I absolutely agree. I don't mind Apple stuff as much as some people, but it drives me crazy how proprietary their crap is. Hopefully this crazy Disney idea at least is opened up to UV providers so that half of the mad pairing is taken out of the equation.

I doubt that Disney will change their approach unless there's a financial motive for doing so. I vote with my dollars.

I haven't bought any of the blu-ray sets even though they come with DC+ because they aren't UV. I don't go see Disney movies, since I won't be able to add the ones that I like to my UV collection.

They are making a business decision, and they are probably right. Most people will cave and still buy their products the way that they dictate.

[replica145]

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I don't want it to link to VUDU and I refuse to use it and hope others do the same. I want it to fail, and fail miserably so they will hurry up and join Ultraviolet already. It's really obnoxious they are offering a nascent competing service 2.5 years later.

[starhedgehog]

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If anyone knew about Disney's first attempt to making a cloud service it was "Disney Movies Online" it closed within a year. They been talking about Keychest for years and now we are getting a glimpse at it in the form of Disney Movies Anywhere. It's just too soon for me to review it. It is crazy that right now it links to iTunes purchases, we already have iCloud so what is the point right? The only good thing right now is getting points for rewards by purchasing through the app. The Cat from Outter Space HD is $17.99 on iTunes while $14.99 on Vudu. Cheaper and can stream on other devices in HD for the TV. I love Vudu, they got me started on Disc to Digital and I would decently love them more if they were to link to Disney's cloud. I can barely get Vudu's ios app to work all so I think they need completely rework it, however if I can stream or download my Disney movies purchased vudu on Anywhere on the go, that would be great too, and I can still watch them on my TV through Vudu.

[jeremymc7]

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Those numbers are direct sales from a given quarter. What I'm talking about is total units in use. That's what matters in terms of how many people are going to user DisneyMoviesOnline. vs who can't use it on their android tablet. Phone use for movies is minimal.

There may be a larger volume (read install base) of Android devices but you also need to look as the sames revenue in relation to those devices. iTunes Movie (and music and apps) sales are DRASTICALLY higher Vs. Google / Android store in terms of total revenue and obviously per device, given smaller install base.

Apple people spend WAY more on software than do Droid people. But then the Hardware is WAY more expensive as well so they likely have more disposable income.

[echopulse]

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Mitch Singer reacts to DisneyMoviesAnywhere. He says he doesn't see it as competitive.

http://kidscreen.com/2014/02/26/ultr...ywhere-launch/

[Walter-S_North_Carolina]

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Mitch Singer reacts to DisneyMoviesAnywhere. He says he doesn't see it as competitive.

http://kidscreen.com/2014/02/26/ultr...ywhere-launch/

thx for the link.

It seems clear that the decision makers at Disney Studios are exploring to see if they can make their way without joining DECE. They have business reason to attempt to, but I do think time will run out and they will need to become official DECE members. Them being the sole domestic studio who has not done so is going to start to erode their brand and become increasingly difficult to explain to their consumers.

I personally believe it will occur this year. Q4 to be exact.

[MoWeb]

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thx for the link.

It seems clear that the decision makers at Disney Studios are exploring to see if they can make their way without joining DECE. They have business reason to attempt to, but I do think time will run out and they will need to become official DECE members. Them being the sole domestic studio who has not done so is going to start to erode their brand and become increasingly difficult to explain to their consumers.

I personally believe it will occur this year. Q4 to be exact.

I really love your optimism here Walter but Disney will never join DECE. This move by Disney has really renewed interest in that other service from UV loyalists (I've been watching). Everyone is scrambling to get DC's of Disney movies to add to DMA. Hopefully Disney follows through with the terms and conditions about adding other "Digital Distributors" to DMA. The thing I hate is they totally leave the door open to remove "Digital Distributors". Once again they wield all of the power here because of their much desired library of content.

[huskerbear]

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"Disney Movies Anywhere" As long as its on an apple device or itunes.......this isn't 5 years ago...step backwards for disney!

[MattO]

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It's a V1 public release of a new service with some tricky legal and technical integration bits. I get it. I'm happy they did it and I'm confident that they understand the need to roll it out into additional platforms, them being a business and all.

So, like Singer, I see this as a positive step that indicates corporate interest in the digital world. I'm going to write their customer service and say "this looks really cool - I'd love to see this for Vudu since that's what we use". It would be good for them to hear it in that way, I'd think. I'd think that Vudu would have plenty of motivation to make this happen from their end, so I'm not sure communicating to them would help much.

And, no, I think that once they've added some more partners the pressure to make their titles UV is basically going to evaporate. People will have their content on their devices of choice and in the apps they're used to using. Nobody really cares that much about the rest.

[echopulse]

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I'd be really sad if public demand for UV evaporates. UV has a lot of advantages that DisneyMoviesAnywhere, even with a vudu link wouldn't have. UV has member sharing, Common File Format downloads, D2D upgrades, and other features that iTunes doesn't have.

[Walter-S_North_Carolina]

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And, no, I think that once they've added some more partners the pressure to make their titles UV is basically going to evaporate. People will have their content on their devices of choice and in the apps they're used to using. Nobody really cares that much about the rest.

1. Vendor agnostic digital rights locker
2. Library sharing
3. Unified digital distribution methodology
4. Unified brand awareness

Vudu holds none of these. Nor iTunes. Nor Amazon Instant Video. Each is a vendor specific service with individual brand awareness. None has library sharing and each has their own digital distribution methodology.

Ultraviolet / DECE was founded as a non-for-profit consortium for a very specific set of market needs.

In five years, we will not even be able to remember this fumble by Disney Studios. Digital distribution will be via DECE standards. I do not think there is any question at this point. There is only one studio holdout and they are scrambling to save face.

As an example, about twenty years ago there was a new productivity technology for businesses called client/server. It relied on a LAN, but there were competing LAN network protocol standards. The three were token ring, TCP/IP via Ethernet, and IPX/SPX via Ethernet.

Token ring held out for awhile. IPX/SPX fell first. Today, we only know of TCP/IP. The need for a standard ended any arguments.

So too will occur with MPAA digital distribution. With well over eighty percent of the studios by market share DECE members and only one hold out, the decision has been made and it is simply a matter of time for it to be 100%.

Very much like IBM thinking their market dominance would reverse the trend and their backed token ring would become the standard. The last token ring network card was made well over a decade ago.

[Walter-S_North_Carolina]

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I really love your optimism here Walter but Disney will never join DECE..

...and Microsoft will NEVER put a Bluray player into an xbox.

Oh wait...

[MattO]

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1. Vendor agnostic digital rights locker
2. Library sharing
3. Unified digital distribution methodology
4. Unified brand awareness

Disney is effectively building a parallel "vendor agnostic digital rights locker", at least as far as the consumer is concerned. Nothing prevents them from doing library sharing down the road, and I bet that's a fringe use case. As far as I can tell, consumers don't find anything about UV "unified" so far - large gaps in content availability, widely differing redemption methods, flaky D2D programs, etc. And the very last thing Disney needs to worry about is brand awareness.

I'm telling you, once they roll this out to several vendors and their quasi D2D services are matured, the public won't care at all that it's not UV. Yes, there are good reasons to consolidate to a single standard, but consumer pressure isn't really going to be one of them. With this move (or at least as they describe their plans), Disney can hold out for a good, long time.