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  • bspooky
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by NA9D View Post
    This made me laugh. You have no concept of who the people in management at Vudu are and the experience with Hollywood they bring. Several of the Sr. management came from places like Tivo.

    And Apple is not so perfect with marketing either. Every hear of the G4 Cube? Or how about the fact that the AppleTV has been a flop for the past year? Or did you ever hear of NBC? Hmm...Try to find NBC shows on iTunes. Apple screwed that one up. And now recording studios are putting out DRM free content. But except for one studio, it isn't on iTunes...

    So Apple's track record is far from perfect.
    This is funny. Why is it that I indicate Apple has a good shot at doing better than Vudu and metiong things such as Jobs USUALLY doesn't make marketing blunders like forgetting to mention huge holes in movie rentals being available and you jump to picking an ancient Apple failure and saying they are far from perfect? I didn't say they are perfect, I said USUALLY.

    As far as people at vudu I do believe I started that point off with I DON'T KNOW. But now that you have informaed me they have Tivo experience, well, I am sure that TV experience will go wonderfully with the movie business. Apply doesn't have much in the way of TV (oh wait, iTunes). And they don't know anything about other media. Oh wait, music deals. And they have no MOVIE experience. Er, wait, what is Jobs relationship with Disney again?

    Instead of putting words in my mouth or picking on every little bit I say just realize all I am saying is Apple has a good chance of doing a better job than Vudu. Do they have a chance at sucking even worse? Yup. Do they have a chance at doing about the same (as I think you would say)? Yup. I just think, based on what I have said before, they have a better chance.

    Thats all. I am not attacking Vudu, so stop defending them at all costs (my interpretation). I have a Vudu. I want it to grow and be great. I don't want to buy an Apple TV. I actually don't even own anything Apple (gasp! not even an ipod!!!!).

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  • bspooky
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by redwein View Post
    Like I said, blind hope. Your points aren't evidence of anything as far as the licensing deals go. It really depends more on why the studios are being so restrictive than on Jobs' charisma, business acumen, or anything else he might do. The evidence we have today says that the almighty is hitting the same blocks.
    Your "evidence", that apple has the same 30 day / 24 hour rental type agreement that Vudu does so is therefore are hitting the same blocks is much like saying you just saw a blue car, then a second blue car, therefore all cars are blue.

    Just because in one category, the 30 day / 24 hour rental, Apple and Vudu are alike does not by any means indicate that the rest of the categories (how many movies, how soon, price, etc.) will matchup.....so that is very little evidence.

    Blind hope implys to me that one has hopes something will be true without ANY basis (blindly) for that hope. I listed several things (busines acumen, ties to the MOVIE industry, past track record of gathering support for a digital media distribution center when others had failed, etc.). This is far from blind hope.

    And I would call it hope. I stated my thoughts that my gut feeling is Apple will do a better job than Vudu in getting new releases.

    If you want hope, I think I stated before that I hope Apple does do that AND that Vudu will also be able to as well (increase the number of new release rentals). I do NOT want to buy and Apple TV, I just want moremovies on my Vudu.

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  • NA9D
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by bspooky View Post
    How you can say this won't change, then say likely won't change?
    Probably because I hadn't investigated it yet when I wrote that and I was speculating (dang - must people parse everything someone says!).

    After investigating it with iTunes, I can unequivocally state that there is content on iTunes that is purchase only and there is content on iTunes that is rental only.

    Some of the biggest complaints about Vudu:

    - Not all movies are rentable
    - Movies aren't rentable same day they are released
    - Movies aren't all in DD5.1

    Same thing with AppleTV. In fact, on AppleTV there are ZERO standard definition movies available in DD5.1. And FWIU, the audio bit rate on 5.1 content on AppleTV HD content is drastically lower than the bit rate on Vudu's 5.1 content.

    Where are the cat calls and "this is a failed product" type pronouncements about AppleTV?

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  • bspooky
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by NA9D View Post
    This ain't going to change with Apple either....There will still likely be non-rentable content.
    How you can say this won't change, then say likely won't change?

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  • NA9D
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by RonV View Post
    Currently the VUDU has the Bourne series in HD (3). During CES they announced 70 HD features in January along with a new software release.
    As soon as the new build is released (and I know engineering is trying hard to get it out as quickly as possible), you'll have most of those 70 HD films available right away.

    I've got a feeling that the studios are going to release similar if not identical movie catalogs to Vudu and iTunes.

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  • RonV
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by aaronwt View Post
    How many does VUDU currently have available? I really hope I can get my VUDU box before the end of the month. I'm becoming a little impatient since I have a self imposed price restriction. But a new year and new priorities so I'm trying to stick to my self imposed price restriction.
    Currently the VUDU has the Bourne series in HD (3). During CES they announced 70 HD features in January along with a new software release.

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  • aaronwt
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    How many does VUDU currently have available? I really hope I can get my VUDU box before the end of the month. I'm becoming a little impatient since I have a self imposed price restriction. But a new year and new priorities so I'm trying to stick to my self imposed price restriction.

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  • HeadHodge
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by NA9D View Post
    Yes - it will be 2 weeks before the ATV update comes out.
    Maybe we can change the name of this thread to "100 hd titles someday"

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  • NA9D
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Yes - it will be 2 weeks before the ATV update comes out.

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  • rstone
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by RobertHodge View Post
    I bought an Appple TV today out of curiosity to compare with my Vudu.

    So far as I can tell it's still vapor-ware.

    No new software, no movie rentals, no nothing.
    I think I read on the Apple forum that the firmware update for the ATV unit wont be released for like 2 weeks. So for now your stuck with how it works.

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  • HeadHodge
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    I bought an Appple TV today out of curiosity to compare with my Vudu.

    So far as I can tell it's still vapor-ware.

    No new software, no movie rentals, no nothing.

    I don't have iTunes (nor want it)

    So for now, I'm sticking with my Vudu.

    I also have Directv and can download movies to my Dvr. It works fine too, but so far they only have 3 HD movies with DD5.1. All the rest are in SD/Stereo format.

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  • NA9D
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by aaronwt View Post
    I have the money to buy the VUDU at $400 I just don't perceive that as a good value right now.
    Fair answer. We all place different values on different things.

    I think you'll like it once you get it and you'll wonder why you waited...

    This iTunes rental thing is becoming more of a headache...

    - Rent on AppleTV and you can't move it elsewhere
    - I'm not sure if you can move rentals between authorized iTunes computers

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  • aaronwt
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by NA9D View Post
    I'm sorry if I'm incredulous and please don't take this the wrong way.

    - You have money to buy an 1080p/24 TV
    - You have money to buy a Blu-Ray player
    - You have money to buy an Xbox (assume you use this for HD-DVD)
    - You have money to purchase 500 HD and BR movies
    - You don't have $399 to purchase a Vudu.

    Do I have that correct?

    I'm sorry if I am not sympathetic...
    Well I actually have four HD DVD players. But realistically I've spent way too much on HD media since April 2006 and I really need to slow down. Although I did the same thing between 1998 and 2000 with DVDs.
    This year I plan on doing more rentals and the VUDU will go a longs ways to help me accomplish that. The VUDU looks good to me because I never know what I will be in the mood to watch and it will give me instant access. That is why I have so many HD DVD/BDs.
    I have the money to buy the VUDU at $400 I just don't perceive that as a good value right now. If it was 2001 when I first started watching HD or even 2 years ago I would have jumped on it without hesitation at that price(probably a much higher price back then) since there wasn't as much HD content. But now I have many avenues(Xbox Live, FIOS, HD DVD, and BD) that supply HD content so it doesn't make the VUDU purchase as high a priority at $400. At half that price with movie credits and it jumps to the top of my list.
    I'm going to purchase a VUDU, it's just a matter of when. Ideally before the end of the January, but worst case before the end of Winter.

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  • NA9D
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by aaronwt View Post
    But Comcast doesn't have Quadruple play like Verizon has so you can get a discount on your cellphone service.
    I really hope I can get my VUDU soon. I see more on Ebay so maybe I'll get lucky with one of the auctions or VUDU will have a really good sale. The Apple TV does me no good since I have an Xbox 360 which already gives me 720P downloads. I want 1080P24 content. I already have over 500 titles between HD DVD and BD. I don't plan on buying as many titles this year(60 instead of 300+) and the VUDU rentals will really fill the gap.
    I'm sorry if I'm incredulous and please don't take this the wrong way.

    - You have money to buy an 1080p/24 TV
    - You have money to buy a Blu-Ray player
    - You have money to buy an Xbox (assume you use this for HD-DVD)
    - You have money to purchase 500 HD and BR movies
    - You don't have $399 to purchase a Vudu.

    Do I have that correct?

    I'm sorry if I am not sympathetic...

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  • aaronwt
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    Re: Apple TV take 2: 100 hd titles today

    Originally posted by Limey View Post
    ... Comcast is now the 4th largest telco in the US (I believe) why? Two words - "Triple Play." It is also experiencing the lowest churn in years...how much easier is it to retain a customer and attract new ones when your users are already hooked on one or more services/bundles....

    ...
    But Comcast doesn't have Quadruple play like Verizon has so you can get a discount on your cellphone service.
    I really hope I can get my VUDU soon. I see more on Ebay so maybe I'll get lucky with one of the auctions or VUDU will have a really good sale. The Apple TV does me no good since I have an Xbox 360 which already gives me 720P downloads. I want 1080P24 content. I already have over 500 titles between HD DVD and BD. I don't plan on buying as many titles this year(60 instead of 300+) and the VUDU rentals will really fill the gap.

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