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    MGM to post films on YouTube

    Wow...

    http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nm/200811..._youtube_mgm_2

    So MGM, who was the last hold-out to join the Vudu revolution is now jumping in with both feet to offer content on YouTube as well.

    See Hodge, since YouTube is going to offer full length TV shows and now MGM movies, there's darn good reason to have it added to Vudu.

    Plus, I dislike you referring to my work posted there as "amateurish."
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    Re: MGM to post films on YouTube

    Will the quality be any good?

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      Re: MGM to post films on YouTube

      Originally posted by NA9D View Post
      Plus, I dislike you referring to my work posted there as "amateurish."
      The possibility of accidentally stumbling onto and watching some of your "professional" work is reason enough for VUDU to not provide YouTube content!!

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        Re: MGM to post films on YouTube

        Originally posted by HeadHodge View Post
        The possibility of accidentally stumbling onto and watching some of your "professional" work is reason enough for VUDU to not provide YouTube content!!
        Ahem...

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gma9ffSV8s

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          Re: MGM to post films on YouTube

          Originally posted by NA9D View Post
          Ahem...

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gma9ffSV8s

          Oh Great.... Thanks Shultzy.

          I showed it to Darlene and now she wants another one.

          Those type of videos should be outlawed!!

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            Re: MGM to post films on YouTube

            Originally posted by NA9D View Post
            YouTube is going to offer full length TV shows and now MGM movies, there's darn good reason to have it added to Vudu.
            I bet Comcast, AT&T and other providers are going to love that. Who knows...maybe the more people that congest the internet will force those providers and others to upgrade the infrastructure to get with the times. Personally, though...I think free 2hr long movies is only going to cause more congestion on a outdated infrastructure that still relies on copper wires and old technology. It is no wonder that we are so slow in the United States, compared to other countries like Japan, etc...

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              Re: MGM to post films on YouTube

              Originally posted by rstone View Post
              I bet Comcast, AT&T and other providers are going to love that. Who knows...maybe the more people that congest the internet will force those providers and others to upgrade the infrastructure to get with the times. Personally, though...I think free 2hr long movies is only going to cause more congestion on a outdated infrastructure that still relies on copper wires and old technology. It is no wonder that we are so slow in the United States, compared to other countries like Japan, etc...
              Not sure what you mean here. The telecom infrastructure of the US is almost all fiber. Been that way for years. In fact, there's been too much fiber until recently. One of the industries hit hardest by the internet bubble breaking in 2000 was the telecom industry. So much money was spent on fiber infrastructure and related products in the late 90s. After the crash, there was tons of fiber that was dark - unused. Finally after 8 years, that is beginning to change as the demand for fiber is rapidly increasing. I also don't think that the current recession will have much impact on it as the demand for bandwidth is going to increase regardless...

              The only major place where copper is still used is in those areas served by DSL and the like....But that's a "last mile" to the subscriber's location typically and not for backbone.

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                Re: MGM to post films on YouTube

                Originally posted by HeadHodge View Post
                Oh Great.... Thanks Shultzy.

                I showed it to Darlene and now she wants another one.

                Those type of videos should be outlawed!!

                Remember - I know nothing. Still trying to figure out how those first two happened. I know nothing...

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                  Re: MGM to post films on YouTube

                  Originally posted by NA9D View Post
                  Not sure what you mean here. The telecom infrastructure of the US is almost all fiber. Been that way for years. In fact, there's been too much fiber until recently. One of the industries hit hardest by the internet bubble breaking in 2000 was the telecom industry. So much money was spent on fiber infrastructure and related products in the late 90s. After the crash, there was tons of fiber that was dark - unused. Finally after 8 years, that is beginning to change as the demand for fiber is rapidly increasing. I also don't think that the current recession will have much impact on it as the demand for bandwidth is going to increase regardless...

                  The only major place where copper is still used is in those areas served by DSL and the like....But that's a "last mile" to the subscriber's location typically and not for backbone.
                  Isn't the reason that Comcast is capping the bandwidth at 250 GB / user due to congestion? That's what they claim anyway. If so, it seems to match what rstone is talking about (perhaps not the copper part).

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                    Re: MGM to post films on YouTube

                    Originally posted by redwein View Post
                    Isn't the reason that Comcast is capping the bandwidth at 250 GB / user due to congestion? That's what they claim anyway. If so, it seems to match what rstone is talking about (perhaps not the copper part).
                    Well, even with fiber there is a limit to the amount of data that can be sent through the pipe. And given that Cable uses a "shared" medium, one user can potentially hog other users.

                    I think the bandwidth caps though are less about not having capacity and more about wanting top users to pay more money to use that bandwidth.

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                      Re: MGM to post films on YouTube

                      Originally posted by NA9D View Post
                      Well, even with fiber there is a limit to the amount of data that can be sent through the pipe. And given that Cable uses a "shared" medium, one user can potentially hog other users.

                      I think the bandwidth caps though are less about not having capacity and more about wanting top users to pay more money to use that bandwidth.
                      If that's true, maybe Comcast and the others will "love" it, just not sarcastically.

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                        Re: MGM to post films on YouTube

                        Originally posted by NA9D View Post
                        The only major place where copper is still used is in those areas served by DSL and the like....But that's a "last mile" to the subscriber's location typically and not for backbone.
                        What do you mean that copper is only used by DSL?? You cable modem users use copper to. You do know that your cable wire has a copper core right?. DSL is still very popular and just about everywhere, and as long as providers rely on copper for that last mile as part of there internet infrastructure then there will always be a bottleneck. Residential areas need to get upgraded to fiber, which is extremely SLOW going.

                        One doesn't need to look hard to find reports that state that the "Internet access infrastructure, specifically in North America, will likely cease to be adequate for supporting demand within the next three to five years"

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                          Re: MGM to post films on YouTube

                          Originally posted by rstone View Post
                          What do you mean that copper is only used by DSL?? You cable modem users use copper to. You do know that your cable wire has a copper core right?.
                          I'll bet he meant twisted pair copper. I believe cable provides a significant bandwidth improvement over twisted pair due to it's transmission characteristics. It's even better if you use RG6 cable instead of RG59.

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                            Re: MGM to post films on YouTube

                            Originally posted by HeadHodge View Post
                            I'll bet he meant twisted pair copper. I believe cable provides a significant bandwidth improvement over twisted pair due to it's transmission characteristics. It's even better if you use RG6 cable instead of RG59.
                            Cable obviously provides a significant bandwidth improvement, but what most people don't realize is that bandwidth speed is determined by the size of the network, while latency is determined by how long your packets take to travel roundtrip. Together, latency and bandwidth determine the speed of a connection. Unfortunately, one of the disadvantages of cable is that it has high latency during peak usage, which cause noticeable performance degradation. Which is all a result of a shared system. Cable also has many other issues, such as:

                            Service can be affected by the weather and reliability can be an issue.

                            Shared bandwidth causes speed slowdowns especially during periods of peak demand. As the number of users on the system at the same time increases, so does the amount of service congestion. This results in slower connection speed.

                            Speeds can be unpredictable, especially during prime time hours in the evening

                            Cable has worries about privacy/encryption as it is a shared environment

                            Don't get me wrong, I don't think DSL is all that great either, but neither has anything on fiber, in my opinion.
                            Last edited by rstone; 11-11-2008, 04:45 PM. Reason: Latency Clarification

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                              Re: MGM to post films on YouTube

                              Originally posted by rstone View Post
                              Don't get me wrong, I don't think DSL is all that great either, but neither has anything on fiber, in my opinion.
                              I agree with that.

                              I guess I was more thinking along the lines of the future, not the way things are today.

                              Most homes are now wired to some degree with both cable and twisted pair.

                              It seems that it would be easier and a superior solution for a cable provider to replace their cable wire running on the poles with fiber and then use some sort of fiber to cable interface at the homes drop point (something similar looking to a tap which is used today).

                              The cable provider is already leasing the pole from the utility company for their existing cable. So I wouldn't think there would be a significant increase in recurring costs.

                              This could be done without affecting the homes wiring and get that backbone within feet instead of miles to many homes. And the home would be in better position to take advantage of the extra speed with cable than with twisted pair.

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