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    #16
    Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

    Originally posted by NA9D View Post
    HD file sizes are approximately double the size of SD movies.

    I'll leave it to you guys to figure out the bandwidth needed to stream instantly!
    I don't know about that. Most DVD's without extra content and menus are around 4-5gigs on a standard DVD and on HDDVD it is more like 27gigs, at least on my HD-DVD's that I own. Although, I can compress a DVD down to about 1 gig, if i'm willing to compromise quality and size. I'm curious how your able to compress HD to 1/5 its size without compromising quality.

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      #17
      Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

      Originally posted by rstone View Post
      I don't know about that. Most DVD's without extra content and menus are around 4-5gigs on a standard DVD and on HDDVD it is more like 27gigs, at least on my HD-DVD's that I own. Although, I can compress a DVD down to about 1 gig, if i'm willing to compromise quality and size. I'm curious how your able to compress HD to 1/5 its size without compromising quality.
      Here we go again - search the forum for the word 'compression'



      Blu-Ray and HD-DVD use an ancient MPEG-2 compression algorithm. Vudu uses H.264 and gets much smaller files with great results. Look at your Bourne HD movies - they are only 4GB files, vs the same movie being a huge file on the old media.

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        #18
        Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

        Originally posted by Nded View Post

        Blu-Ray and HD-DVD use an ancient MPEG-2 compression algorithm. Vudu uses H.264 and gets much smaller files with great results. Look at your Bourne HD movies - they are only 4GB files, vs the same movie being a huge file on the old media.

        I was under the impression HD DVD was using MPEG 4 compression...

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          #19
          Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

          I'm not sure what HD-DVD and Blu-Ray use.

          But I know for a FACT that the Vudu uses H.264. SD movies are around 1.5 to 2 Gigabytes in size and HD movies are 3 to 4 Gigabytes. How do I know this? I've been testing the product and working with Vudu engineers for 11 months. Yeah, it's a damn good picture for 4 Gigs of size.

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            #20
            Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

            Originally posted by gazzie4 View Post
            I was under the impression HD DVD was using MPEG 4 compression...
            That may be right, as I don't have a hope of keeping up with that. I just know that Vudu has the leverage of using a newer/better algorithm, and that the HD/BLU folks are stuck with the old algorithms as they have to maintain compatibility with the install base.

            If/when a new compression algorithm hits the streets in the future, the Vudu can take advantage of that also.

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              #21
              Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

              Thanks for the over-reaction... as for your dead horse picture... no comment.

              I figured it had something to do with compression, but that wasnt the question. The question was does the compression sacrafice quality if being used.

              Originally posted by Nded View Post
              Here we go again - search the forum for the word 'compression'

              Blu-Ray and HD-DVD use an ancient MPEG-2 compression algorithm. Vudu uses H.264 and gets much smaller files with great results. Look at your Bourne HD movies - they are only 4GB files, vs the same movie being a huge file on the old media.

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                #22
                Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

                No, as if you use divx to compress a dvd to divx, it uses mpeg4 and shrinks the dvd from 9 gig to around 1 gig with little to no loss.

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                  #23
                  Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

                  HD DVD uses the MPEG 4 AVC compression. Blu Ray uses Mpeg 2

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                    #24
                    Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

                    The animated dead horse was meant to be a humorous item folks. I guess I should have included a bunch of smilies after it. Please don't take everything so seriously. The concern about HD files being too big to stream is an "old media" problem that doesn't affect the Vudu experience.

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                      #25
                      Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

                      To set things straight:

                      All HD DVD and Blu-ray players must support the following codecs:
                      MPEG-2
                      H.264/AVC
                      SMPTE VC-1

                      Most of the discs out there are in either VC-1 or H.264/AVC. So they're taking advantage of the same "new" H.264 technology. The only remaining question is how much space the average HD-DVD/Blue-Ray movie takes up and how that compares to the Vudu's 4-5Gb per HD movie.

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                        #26
                        Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

                        I think the average Blu-Ray/HD-DVD disc is around 15 Gigabytes - so say 3 to 4 times more than Vudu. Is there a sacrifice? Perhaps - people have complained of banding on the Bourne movies. But if HD is able to be streamed - is it worth a slightly less good picture to have instant availability w/o physical media?

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                          #27
                          Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

                          But does that 15GB include the main title with multiple audio tracks and the extras, or just the Main Title with English audio track, which is a more valid comparison point?

                          In the end though, what really matters is do you see artifacts when you watch the movie? From what I've watched so far, most of the SD encodings look great upscaled to 1080i on my TV. Oceans 13 is one exception. It looked like crap in multiple places. The Bourne movies look even better.

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                            #28
                            Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

                            Originally posted by NA9D View Post
                            I think the average Blu-Ray/HD-DVD disc is around 15 Gigabytes - so say 3 to 4 times more than Vudu. Is there a sacrifice? Perhaps - people have complained of banding on the Bourne movies. But if HD is able to be streamed - is it worth a slightly less good picture to have instant availability w/o physical media?
                            I'm not sure where your getting your numbers, but here is the list I found for HD-DVD movies.

                            12 Monkeys: 21.9 GiB - 23 532 732 416 bytes
                            2 Fast 2 Furious: 21.2 GiB - 22 857 646 080 bytes
                            The Adventures Of Robin Hood: 27.2 GB - 29 238 362 112 bytes
                            Apollo 13: 27.6 GiB - 29 643 898 880 bytes
                            Batman Begins: 24.8 GiB - 26 637 697 024 bytes
                            Blazing Saddles: 25.4 GiB - 27 279 753 216 bytes
                            Caddyshack: 19.7 GiB - 19 315 032 064 bytes
                            Casablanca: 22.4 GiB - 24 411 897 856 bytes
                            Charlie and the Chocolate Factory: 26.6 GiB - 28 594 405 376 bytes
                            Chronicles of Riddick: 26.3 GiB - 28 246 081 536
                            Constantine: 21.9 GiB - 23 585 423 360 bytes
                            Corpse Bride: 19.0 GiB - 20 497 760 256 bytes
                            The Dirty Dozen: 27.6 GiB - 29 692 461 056 bytes
                            End Of Days: 27.7 GiB - 29 766 647 808 bytes
                            Excalibur: 19.2 GiB - 20 639 776 768 bytes
                            Fast Times At Ridgemont High: 12.6 GiB - 13 579 911 168 bytes
                            The Fast And The Furious: 27.5 GiB - 29 612 965 888 bytes
                            Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas: 22.6 GiB - 24 271 781 888 bytes
                            The Frighteners: 25.7GiB - 27 640 059 904 bytes (Documentary 7.62 GiB, Main Feature 17.1 GiB)
                            The Fugitive: 18.2 GiB - 19 560 988 672 bytes
                            Grand Prix: 22.3 GiB - 23 962 320 896 bytes
                            Happy Feet: 14.8 GiB - 15 912 293 191 bytes
                            Happy Gilmore: 15.1 GiB - 16 233 070 592 bytes
                            The Italian Job: 24.1 GiB - 25 893 535 744 bytes
                            Jarhead: 24.7 GiB - 26 563 248 128 bytes.
                            King Kong: 27.4 GiB - 29 482 090 496 bytes
                            The Last Samurai: 27.3 GiB - 29 348 200 448 bytes
                            The Manchurian Candidate: 27.0 GiB - 29 061 021 696 bytes
                            Mission Impossible: III Disk 1: 26.7 GiB - 28 771 549 184 bytes
                            Mission Impossible: III Disk 2: 22.6 GiB - 24 372 641 792 bytes
                            Pitch Black: 21.3 GiB - 22 956 670 976 bytes
                            The Polar Express: 13.0 GiB - 14 009 499 648 bytes
                            Ray: 27.0 GiB - 29 091 430 400 bytes
                            Seabiscuit: 25.3 GiB - 27 192 066 048 bytes
                            The Searchers: 27.8 GiB - 29 869 342 720 bytes
                            Serenity: 19.6 GiB - 21 070 675 968 bytes
                            Spartacus: 27.6 GiB - 29 655 302 144 bytes
                            Swordfish: 18.4 GiB - 19 812 646 912 bytes
                            The Thing: 25.6 GiB - 27 549 171 712 bytes
                            Tomb Raider: 26.0 GiB - 27 938 652 160 bytes
                            Training Day: 22.5 GiB - 24 214 634 496 bytes
                            Troy: 22.6 GB - 24 311 234 560 bytes
                            U2 - Rattle & Hum: 17.2 GiB - 18 567 331 840 bytes
                            U-571: 23.2 GiB - 24 999 755 766 bytes
                            Under Siege: 17.4 GiB - 18 735 300 608 bytes
                            Unforgiven: 25.7 GiB - 27 656 454 144 bytes
                            Van Helsing: 25.4 GiB - 27 365 212 160 bytes
                            We Were Soldiers: 27.1 GiB - 29 150 216 192 bytes

                            I would say based on that, your avg HD movie in HD-DVD is alot more than 15gb.

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                              #29
                              Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

                              Originally posted by NA9D View Post
                              But if HD is able to be streamed - is it worth a slightly less good picture to have instant availability w/o physical media?
                              Well it depends on what your telling people... if your saying its 1080p quality, then thats totally misleading if your degrading the quality. Don't get me wrong, I'll take HD in whatever quality format Vudu is willing to give it, and I am happy they are offering it and hope they offer more. I just think if your going to say its true HD quality, then it should be done without degrading the quality through whatever means is being used.

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                                #30
                                Re: vudu pricing vs Amazon Unbox

                                Maybe they could consider 2 qualities, a watch it now quality, the current, and a watch it later, or download for later viewing which has a higher bit rate so you don't sacrifice the quality especially on purchases over rentals.

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