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  • jeffpn
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    Re: News from CES

    Originally posted by tfisher View Post
    I think it's funny how an article that tells us about Vudu's at home D2D and MGM titles being available is accepted as truth, yet another that tells us that Walmart themselves say that we can use VHS tapes for D2D is rejected as false.
    The at home D2D and MGM are announcements of what is yet to come. There's nothing to doubt at this time. You are stating that VHS is already here, and you can't give me any Vudu link to support your story. There's nothing to state that D2D@home is here now, either. I don't expect any of it to be available right now.

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  • tfisher
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    Originally posted by jeffpn View Post
    Pointless comments? I'm just asking you to show me a website that has VHS on it. Can you do that? I see nothing about VHS anywhere except for hearsay.
    That is exactly my point...I posted three different links (2 of the same USA Today article) and I have been trying to explain to you guys what the D2D fees are really for but to no avail.

    I think it's funny how an article that tells us about Vudu's at home D2D and MGM titles being available is accepted as truth, yet another that tells us that Walmart themselves say that we can use VHS tapes for D2D is rejected as false. I could understand if we were talking about the National Enquirer.

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  • jeffpn
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    Pointless comments? I'm just asking you to show me a website that has VHS on it. Can you do that? I see nothing about VHS anywhere except for hearsay.

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  • tfisher
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    Originally posted by jeffpn View Post
    Negative. I want a link to a website that says what it costs to convert a VHS tape, or even a picture of a sign in a store. I'm not interested in what your opinion is.
    So you want to keep this thread going...is that so you can argue with me in two threads...double your pleasure so to speak?

    No thanks...let's move this to the thread I started. But be warned that I am not interested in continuing the arguing so you may just be wasting your time with any further pointless comments. In the other thread I have responded to the prices and the documentation being reprinted.

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  • jeffpn
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    Negative. I want a link to a website that says what it costs to convert a VHS tape, or even a picture of a sign in a store. I'm not interested in what your opinion is.

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  • tfisher
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    Re: News from CES

    Originally posted by jeffpn View Post
    Show me a price list that states the cost for Blu Rays, the cost for DVDs, and the cost for VHS tapes.
    Converting VHS tapes is the same as converting a DVD. Price is $2 for SD and $5 for HD.

    Continue any further discussions in my new thread I started today for Disc-to-Digital includes VHS.

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  • madmod20061
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    Re: News from CES

    Originally posted by echopulse View Post
    Wow, I really sparked a debate by posting that link, didn't I? And no one even cared to discuss what I was wanting to discuss, the purported availability of 100,000 titles! What do you think??
    Crazy. I was getting ready to start a new thread about CES because this one no longer seemed to be about CES. I think it's great all the new titles. It still seems odd that some major titles are not UV or even digitally available (Gremlins, The Color Purple, etc...) hopefully with all those 100,000 titles some of everyone's wishlist titles will be included. Something I noticed when using the Cinemanow's D2D software was that Earth Girls are Easy, which is not UV anywhere as far as I can tell, popped up with a UV symbol next to it (but said not available to convert). Most movies that pop up like and are unavailable do not have the symbol next to it. Earth Girls is an MGM title, so I guess they are preparing for their role out?

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  • tfisher
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    Originally posted by echopulse View Post
    Wow, I really sparked a debate by posting that link, didn't I? And no one even cared to discuss what I was wanting to discuss, the purported availability of 100,000 titles! What do you think??
    More is better! I doubt I can watch that many movies in my lifetime though. But the more movies they have the more people they will appeal to.

    My family is more interested in having more television content and having D2D for telelvision. I don't recall seeing anything about TV in that article though.

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  • echopulse
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    Wow, I really sparked a debate by posting that link, didn't I? And no one even cared to discuss what I was wanting to discuss, the purported availability of 100,000 titles! What do you think??

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  • mike568
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    In my opinion if you own a movie on VHS and it is available on DVD or Blu-ray and you are trying to convert it D2D you must not really like it enough to spend money to get a better picture and sound quality. With that said the only VHS's movies I own anymore are Titanic and Indiana Jones Trilogy and I them on DVD and Blu-ray also.

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  • jeffpn
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    Re: News from CES

    Originally posted by jeffpn View Post
    Show me a price list that states the cost for Blu Rays, the cost for DVDs, and the cost for VHS tapes.
    ....

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  • tfisher
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    Originally posted by jeffpn View Post
    You are in absolutely no position to interpret the underlying rule, law, or contract.
    Neither are you.

    Originally posted by jeffpn View Post
    It is Vudu's position to determine the eligibility of media.
    Yet they have been quite on the subject. Since you made an assumption I will make one and say that Walmart was just as involved with the discussions as Vudu. Therefore, I will listen to what they tell me.

    Originally posted by jeffpn View Post
    I can't believe they didn't call you up personally when they were hashing all of this out.
    I know, right!

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  • jeffpn
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    You are in absolutely no position to interpret the underlying rule, law, or contract. It is Vudu's position to determine the eligibility of media. I'm sure there were huge discussions with the studios to determine what media would and what wouldn't be eligible. I can't believe they didn't call you up personally when they were hashing all of this out. After all, how could a company ever be successful if they didn't ask for your input??

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  • tfisher
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    Again, only one thing I see to waste time replying to:

    Originally posted by jeffpn View Post
    Huh? That makes no sense to me. Let's say I lay a Disc on the table, and a VHS tape next to it. Then I ask you to bring me the disc. Which one will you bring to me? I don't care whether the Sherry you work with is a man or a woman. A disc is a disc and a tape is a tape. Names of people you work with have nothing to do with this discussion.
    What I am trying to say is that sometimes a name is just a name. You have to look at the underlying rule, law, or contract to find the rest of the story. I am not so dumb that I don't know the difference between a disc and a tape. I don't think the people who wrote those two articles are either. I think we just focused more on the details and not the name.

    I've had enough for now...I will let you know what I find out. If anyone else is able to obtain more details then please keep us informed.

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  • jonline
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    Originally posted by tfisher View Post
    So can I assume that you are a person can give us a first hand account of digital license agreements and disc-to-digital since you state without reservation that there are no licensing provisions for VHS? If not then you are just as guilty as me at this point for posting "false statements". There is at least a little room for doubt, so let's wait for something more official than your interpretation, my interpretation, and two different articles on the web.
    I can give a first hand account that no one so far has located any information from Walmart corporate thzat they allow VHS to be eligible for D2D.

    The default position must be skepticism. I could, for example, argue that they allow digital conversion for merely having ever watched a movie in SD. You would not be able to find anywhere that says "watching movie in SD not elligible", however, that doesn't mean it is eligible. There is information about Disc to Digital and nowhere does it mention "merely having watched it" or VHS. QED.

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