The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

[theogeek_nola]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

Most of my difficulties come with certain studios. I can usually correctly predict which of the participating studio discs in my collection will give me the most difficulty.

[timshel]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

I accept the fact that VUDU could end D2D at any time. My assumption is that it won't happen in the near term. I guess I have always regarded the special rate as intended to do exactly what it did for me - made me interested enough to start converting, which started me down the slippery slope of purchasing titles directly from VUDU. I have to believe that attracting and building market share will continue to be a need for some time - unless there is a better way to get there, the D2D system seems like an effective way to accomplish that (even better with a special attached). Frankly, if D2D was no longer an option I would likely be much more selective than I am today and spend less overall.

[RogerJ]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

-excerpt-
...it is like comparing apples to oranges i have done over 800 conversions through vudu2go and the amount of titles that do not work is only a handful...
-excerpt-

I agree, it is like comparing apples to oranges. However, I've certainly had worse luck than you seem to have had. I convert a ton of movies from franchises and there is no shortage of errors at all. Movies from a franchise series coming up as the wrong sequel; boxsets with 4, 5 and 6 movies only being identified as 1 or 2 of the titles regardless of the disc; remakes coming up as the original and vice versa; flip discs not working at all more than half the time; and discs with multiple versions (i.e. Unrated, Theatrical, etc.) only coming up as one version when I want all versions... or at least missing the version that I always seem to want more. lol... And the multi-version problem is almost guaranteed.

I dread doing a batch of movies when they are of the franchise, remake/original and multi-version release variety. I really hate doing my boxsets. And when I open a DVD up to find a flip-disc, i don't hold my breath that it will work at all. The movies that fall in these categories are plagued with D2D issues.

And of course there are just your general variety bugs on top of it all. The general variety problems are more I think what you may have seen. (This is blind assumption I admit.) But I just don't see problems in that low of numbers. On an average evening of D2D, I am lucky if 60% of my movies don't have some sort of issue. Oh, and I didn't even mention the Blu-rays only being recognized as DVDs problem. lol

I stopped reporting problems in the bug thread since most never get fixed. And no one even seems to know what causes the verification errors except to say they will seemingly never be fixed. Some discs that used to work, now have the verification error so if anything, that particular problem is getting worse. Again, I do a lot from these more problematic movie types, but still...

After skimming what I just wrote, it looks like complaining. I guess it is some but I didn't intend for it to really come off that way. I still adore the service and take it for what it is. My point was that that the program is nowhere near prime-time. So I just really don't see Vudu's D2D program going out of beta anytime soon. Whether that means the 50% special will be extended again, i'm not sure. But I have to imagine they still need some sort of incentive like that to keep people from being too upset with the massive number of bugs.

[echopulse]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

It was just a theory. They could also be waiting for the program to you know, actually work most of the time.

[theogeek_nola]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

If the sale were keeping MGM out of the game then it would seem MGM would make their titles available for other D2D services. My suspicion is that MGM is simply playing their cards close to the chest.

[Grey Ghost]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

I'd rather they end the sale if it means they could get MGM to start adding titles. Maybe the sale is keeping MGM back?

They could still go UV without participating in D2D though.

[echopulse]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

I'd rather they end the sale if it means they could get MGM to start adding titles. Maybe the sale is keeping MGM back?

[TrackZ]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

Hope the discount sticks around. That will keep me converting regularly. It's a nice bonus that should be permanent.

[madmod20061]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

What makes Vudu's better is that they have far more titles available for conversion. I have used the other two and they work great when you find a title to convert. I have only used them when Vudu ToGo didn't work for a title.

Also, if a disc doesn't work you usually have the option to report it with vudu. Either through the software itself or the error thread here. I've had some discs not read in the other services and one will just say "This disc is not eligible" even when it is. The other service will ask for a UPC and then give the same message or worse it will say "burned discs are not eligible" when it's not a burned disc with no way to report it. I get the burned disc message a lot with multi-title discs and Twilight Time blu rays.

No matter how slow they may be a fixing the errors, Vudu's error reporting systems is the best of the group.

[LuzRinggold]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

Vudu's D2D is better than the other's listed - it is like comparing apples to oranges i have done over 800 conversions through vudu2go and the amount of titles that do not work is only a handful and at the point paying $2 at walmart for those is almost trivial. Yes, the 50% off is nice and maybe they will extend but saying your going to stop and go to target, cinemanow, or flixster is crazy the bugs there are far worse The flixster conversion took forever and the cinemanow conversion i had to call when 3 of 4 discs converted on to SD yet i paid $5 for each So regardless i will stick with vudu and only vudu/ when i need to i will go to walmart and have them convert the rest

What makes Vudu's better is that they have far more titles available for conversion. I have used the other two and they work great when you find a title to convert. I have only used them when Vudu ToGo didn't work for a title.

[alexy25]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

Vudu's D2D is better than the other's listed - it is like comparing apples to oranges i have done over 800 conversions through vudu2go and the amount of titles that do not work is only a handful and at the point paying $2 at walmart for those is almost trivial. Yes, the 50% off is nice and maybe they will extend but saying your going to stop and go to target, cinemanow, or flixster is crazy the bugs there are far worse The flixster conversion took forever and the cinemanow conversion i had to call when 3 of 4 discs converted on to SD yet i paid $5 for each So regardless i will stick with vudu and only vudu/ when i need to i will go to walmart and have them convert the rest

[larrs]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

I know they hooked me with the special and even if they do not extend, I will likely keep doing my Blus I get from time to time at the very least. When you become "vested" in a service, you keep using them and that holds true for me- at least until TargetTicket or CinemaNow gets a 50% discount.

[Grey Ghost]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

We may not know for certain till July. IIRC, when it was extended last year it wasn't announced ahead of time; they just kept the 50% discount going in VuduToGo and didn't bother to change the fine print till afterwards. OTOH, it's also possible that the special is tied to the number of titles in users' UV libraries (a key stat quoted by UV promoters); if they've reached their goals it's entirely possible they could end the 50% promo, if not D2D entirely.

For the last extension, one of the Mods, DanielH announced the extension of the discount in the forums a week or so before the end. The fine print was changed after.
https://forum.vudu.com/showthread.ph...72#post1263172

The extension prior we also had some short notice.
https://forum.vudu.com/showthread.ph...30#post1262930

[LuzRinggold]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

We may not know for certain till July. IIRC, when it was extended last year it wasn't announced ahead of time; they just kept the 50% discount going in VuduToGo and didn't bother to change the fine print till afterwards. OTOH, it's also possible that the special is tied to the number of titles in users' UV libraries (a key stat quoted by UV promoters); if they've reached their goals it's entirely possible they could end the 50% promo, if not D2D entirely.

Beta testing isn't related to sales, it's related to bugs and stability. If Vudu feels that they have a stable product that they, and their customers, can live with then I don't see why they would extend the date again.

[RBBrittain]

Re: The End of the 50% Conversion Special and Unresolved Titles

Not sure what you mean by "auto-extended", but Vudu made an active decision to extend the sale at the end of last summer and at the end of last year, because there were still issues with the program/service.
Those issues still exist, but they already have done 2 extensions, so it is not a given they will do another. We won't know for certain until the last week in June.

We may not know for certain till July. IIRC, when it was extended last year it wasn't announced ahead of time; they just kept the 50% discount going in VuduToGo and didn't bother to change the fine print till afterwards. OTOH, it's also possible that the special is tied to the number of titles in users' UV libraries (a key stat quoted by UV promoters); if they've reached their goals it's entirely possible they could end the 50% promo, if not D2D entirely.